First things first HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL HARPIN READERS & LISTENERS!!!!
We had a unique situation for our Munster v Leinster wrap in that due to a late substitution one of our contributors had also done the preview, as ever we’re grateful to Ciarán Duffy for stepping in but also of course to Conor Cronin for his input as well. The plan was to skip the “bonus chat” this week but as it turned out there was so much to harp on, the wrap went over the hour mark so I chose to cut out the “final thoughts” segment from the podcast recording and release that on our YouTube channel.
A selection of eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the rugby media landscape
HARRY THE BEAR
PRET A PORTER
LIES ABOUT LANNY
STATE OF THE UNION
STEPHEN JONES
LEINSTER SQUAD UPDATE
With Leinster off this weekend I don’t see an injury report this week so I’m basing the team below on the last one before the Munster match. Might change the team on next week’s column. Ideally I’d want a 6/2 bench playing La Rochelle but I think we’d need Frawley on the bench for that.
Porter, Kelleher, Slimani, J McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, van der Flier, Doris (c)
G McCarthy, Boyle, Healy, Snyman, Deegan, McGrath, R Byrne, J Osborne
caveat : I have no “ITK” a la Thornley
TROLL PATROL
Now it’s time for Troll Patrol where we ‘detain’ a social media commentator and charge them with gaslightery and general online mayhem.
A joint award of sorts this week with some classic ABL trolling met with a quality counter-troll, especially since the latter doesn’t directly mention the former yet the intentions are obvious.
Hat-tip to RugbyKino for the spot.
Irish Shield
Interprovincial A Championship – strictly for the boards????
I have to say, keeping up with results for this tournament since it was announced at the end of October hasn’t been easy. There’s doesn’t seem to be a dedicated “results/tables/fixtures” page on the IRFU site and even the provincial social media reports have been scarce. The only single source that appears to be keeping tabs on the competition is this thread on boards.ie of all places
With my ‘online tinfoil hat’ on I might speculate the prospect of another Leinster team romping to a first place finish at the expense of other provinces isn’t a good look, but like I say, that is merely speculation.
Anyway…here are the results & fixtures I have been able to find, together with the table based on those results.
Connacht Eagles 7-28 Leinster ‘A’
Ulster ‘A’ 14-40 Connacht Eagles
Leinster ‘A’ 22-7 Munster ‘A’
Munster ‘A’ 50-33 Ulster ‘A’
Ulster ‘A’ 26-14 Munster ‘A’
Leinster ‘A’ v Connacht Eagles [postponed?]
Munster ‘A’ 12-47 Leinster ‘A’
Date ???
Connacht Eagles v Ulster ‘A’
Weekend of 9/10 May:
Connacht Eagles v Munster ‘A’ (tbc)
Leinster ‘A’ v Ulster ‘A’ (tbc)
Weekend of 16/17 May:
Munster ‘A’ v Connacht Eagles (tbc)
Ulster ‘A’ v Leinster ‘A’ (tbc)
Celtic Challenge
All Ireland Leagues
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SVNS
Premiership
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ProD2
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Harpin Prediction League
This is the 4th season of our Superbru prediction league among Harpin’ pod contributors.
Kristian is the reigning champion, but the real competition is in avoiding finishing last, which means you must wear The Jersey of Shame. I had to wear it the first year, and Keego has had the honour the past two seasons.
THIS SEASON THE HPL IS ADDING A NEW KNOCKOUT COMPETITION
CALLED “THE HARPIN MUG”
(BECAUSE THE PRIZE IS AN ACTUAL MUG, WE COULDN’T CALL IT A ‘CUP’)
27 December 2024; Luke McGrath of Leinster scores his side’s first try during the United Rugby Championship match between Munster and Leinster at Thomond Park in Limerick. Photo by Seb Daly/Sportsfile
NOTE : this week we posted the ‘Final Thoughts’ portion separately on our YouTube channel
I am not a McGrath fan but he was good tonight. Credit where its due. Munster’s refusal to take points when they are on offer is just daft against a defence as good as Leinster’s. Lineout was better and the scrum was good mostly.
Gavin Hegarty
Let’s not get carried away here, that was a terrible Munster team. They need to rebuild from the ground up.
Adrian Hickey
Being cautious with Super Sam is key. No Jordie or RG was a killer blow to a real soft Munster outfit imo. No real reason to egg them on
Jackie McEachern
Happy to see the lineout functioning better. Thought VdF was excellent again. Really happy to get the BP win. Still lots to work on but lots of positives too.
Kevin Kelehan
11 points clear of the pack, selecting a stronger squad to tour South Africa in March is vital, now the meat of the season kicks off, La Rochelle away, Bath home and the Six Nations title defence
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21 December 2024; RG Snyman of Leinster makes a break past Josh Murphy of Connacht during the United Rugby Championship match between Leinster and Connacht at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. Photo by David Fitzgerald/Sportsfile
Changes and early injuries proved very disruptive. Came out the right side of a dogfight two weeks running. Better than cakewalks and nothing to show at the end of the season
Eamon Saunders
Not a great game but as I always say a win is a win. Great to see 2 Wexford men on the field Charlie Tector and Brian Deeny
Andrew Bailey
On paper a very strong Connacht team nullified. Just find a Lineout and we could be comfortable
Last week was a nightmare here at Harpin Manor with the whole family struck down with whatever bug is doing the rounds this year. It wasn’t so bad as to stop me from creating content so the usual pods went ahead but let’s just say there have been plenty of coughs edited out of pods and such. It also meant I wasn’t able to go to the Aviva last Saturday; although recovery has been slow I’m hoping to be OK for the Connacht match next time around.
We’re also still struggling to keep the two wrap pods I originally booked to be available for the pod itself for various reasons – for the Clérmont review neither of the two were originally meant to be on but thankfully the deep bench meant Conor Cronin & David Cordial were on hand to help me go back over all that happened Saturday.
A selection of eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the rugby media landscape
GOOD SIGNS
FOUND GUILTY
A VACANT BOOTH
PREMIERSHIP STILL SINKING
STRIPPED OF STRIPES?
HARPIN ON…CONSTRAINED CULLEN?
Last week after relying heavily on a strong bench to secure a bonus point win in Bristol, Leo Cullen said this in his post match presser : “Yeah, we’re able to bring in a few players from overseas, but we’re so constrained in what we actually can bring in so we spend a hell of a lot of time trying to develop what we have in our own back yard.” Not surprisingly a particular corner of the online ruggersphere took exception to his use of the word “constrained” and got a lot of mileage out of it throughout the week, so I reckoned for this week’s bonus chat I’d ask my panel to introduce some Leinster fan perspective to the discussion, starting with David….
LEINSTER SQUAD UPDATE
HARPIN’ POSSIBLE MATCHDAY 23 V CONNACHT
J O’Brien, T O’Brien, Cooney, Barrett, A Osborne, R Byrne, McGrath
McKee, P McCarthy, Healy, Snyman, Culhane, Foley, H Byrne, Tector
caveat : I have no “ITK” a la Thornley
AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
N/A
FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:
Jordan Larmour: was ruled out of contention last week with a minor injury and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on selection.
Thomas Clarkson: picked up an arm injury against ASM Clermont Auvergne and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on selection.
NOT AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
Liam Turner: is unavailable for selection after picking up an ankle injury against ASM Clermont Auvergne.
NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:
Dan Sheehan, Rob Russell, Will Connors, Jamie Osborne, Tadhg Furlong, Ciarán Frawley, Hugo Keenan and James Lowe.
ANAYI’S TEN YEARS
BKT URC boss reflects on his ten years at the helm
As he looks back on his ten years at the helm, BKT URC chief executive Martin Anayi is in no doubt over his proudest achievement.
“That would be when we brought the South African teams in and created the United Rugby Championship,” he declares.
Initially, it was the Toyota Cheetahs and the Southern Kings who came on board to form the PRO14 in 2017.
Then, four years later, they were replaced by the DHL Stormers, Vodacom Bulls, Hollywoodbets Sharks and Emirates Lions, amid the formation of the 16-team BKT URC.
It’s a project which has provoked criticism in some quarters, but, on the field, the sides have delivered in the league, with the DHL Stormers from Cape Town winning the inaugural BKT URC title in 2022 and making the final the following year, while the Vodacom Bulls of Pretoria have twice been runners-up.
As for this term, you have three of the South African sides flying high, with the Hollywoodbets Sharks and Emirates Lions joining the Vodacom Bulls in the top six.
Reflecting on the impact the teams have made, Anayi said:
“They have been tremendously successful in terms of performance and attendance, as well as financially and commercially.
“Pretty much anybody you speak to in the league will say they have raised the standard of the competition on and off the field and they will continue to do that.”
Expanding on the financial benefit, he said: “It’s a game changer. It’s millions.
“More than half our revenue comes from South Africa via television and sponsorship.
“They are also providing more value to EPCR, via Investec’s sponsorship of the Champions Cup.
“It is a huge part of the rugby economy for Europe.”
As for the price tag, in terms of travel, Anayi insisted:
“Our costs are very limited. Remember, we swapped out an Italian game for a South African game. Teams were already having to pay to go to Italy, so we just give them a top up to go to South Africa.
“It doesn’t cost that much compared to what it brings in. It is a very, very good deal.”
Surveying his decade in the job, Anayi said: “We have gone through phases.
“We were PRO12, PRO14, then we had Covid and out of which came BKT URC. It feels like we have done it in phases and the last four years have probably been the most solid out of that – solid in the sense that we have got revenues to a point and our competition is growing in terms of attendance, TV audience, social media.
“We have grown our revenues a lot. It’s probably three or four times what it was ten years ago.
“We have also found we have connected with an audience.
“We have worked really hard to try and find new fans. We’ve hired people to engage on channels pointing to kids who are 13, 14.
“They are not watching linear TV, they are watching stuff on YouTube. So we have invested a lot into our social channels, including our YouTube channel. That has grown tremendously and you can tell that’s a much younger audience that’s engaging.
“We have also invested in a piece of software called Greenfly, which puts content into players’ hands immediately after the game is over.
“There are 700 players that have taken it up. They get back in the dressing room and we have uploaded all the pictures of them from the game. That means players who have their own social media profiles can push that wider.”
So, if that’s the past and the present, what of the future?
In recent months, there has been widespread speculation about a possible merger between the URC and England’s Gallagher Premiership.
Ask Anayi how he feels about that and he replies: “It’s not a frustration.
“People may not know this, but we sit in the same office as Premiership Rugby in London. We have the same co-owner and minority investor in CVC.
“We do a lot together. We are shareholder partners on EPCR. We are incredibly close to them. That’s probably where it comes from most of the time.
“We are always talking. Most of the time that means looking at how do you do better TV deals together or how do we improve the Champions Cup and the Challenge Cup.
“We want to make sure we are running the best competitions we possibly can. Occasionally, we talk about whether there is more we can do together.
“At this stage, not, but whenever it comes up for review we never just block it off. We always give it due credence.
“But, at the same time, things are working really well for BKT URC from a lot of metrics and in a lot of ways. BKT URC has set a really high standard and we don’t want to do anything that’s detrimental to that.”
He concluded: “We sit in the same office as PRL, we see each other every day, we talk to each other about loads of stuff and occasionally we try and explore slightly more format based initiatives, but we both individually love what makes us special.
“It would make sense to do more together in the future, but that may not necessarily mean merging the leagues, it might just mean being more commercially aligned or working on initiatives that grow the fan base.”
On the commercial front, there are big decisions to be made in the immediate term, with the URC’s deals with broadcasters Premier Sports and title sponsors BKT up at the end of this season.
Providing an update, Anayi says: “Premier Sports have really enjoyed it and we have both done well out of the partnership. They have had a lot of rugby subscriptions and are investing in their own rugby channel. They have supported us for many years now and done a really good job.”
As for the next TV deal, he reveals: “We are almost done on that front. We will announce that post Christmas and there is a sense of continuity.”
The message is the same in terms of the arrangement with Indian tyre manufacturing company BKT.
“We are in negotiations. Those conversations are going really well.”
As for future ambitions for the competition he has overseen for a decade, the former motor sport administrator has one thing on his mind above all.
“Attendance,” he declares. “Attendance is the heart and soul of any league or any sport.
“What we want to see, especially in Wales, is attendances going up in double digits percentage-wise each year over the next two or three years.
“If we get that, then we will be in a good spot and not just relying on a big game to bump the numbers, but rather week-in, week-out attendance. That’s probably the one thing over the next two years. If that goes up, I think we are doing a good job.
“For example, Cardiff played Connacht at the Arms Park last season and it was a sell out. So it’s possible for non-derby games, it’s doable. We just need it more often across the competition.”
Outlining another goal, he said: “The class of travel for our teams is something we need to address – moving to business class travel for the South African trips. Big guys need space.
“In terms of travel logistics, the regular season matches are not a problem. We know about those trips and book a long way out. It’s more when it comes to knock-out rugby. That can be hard.
“So, we can change our format in terms of having gaps in the play-offs. We can concertina the regular season and maybe start it a little bit earlier to give ourselves an extra week around semi-final and final.”
Then, lastly, there’s one more piece in the jigsaw which he has his eye on – Wales.
“There is a new CEO and chair at the WRU, there is a new impetus and they have got a new funding model coming in,” he said.
“We support that massively. That will mean the Welsh clubs being competitive in the URC which is probably the missing ingredient we need for this league to really kick on.”
And so the next decade begins.
TROLL PATROL
Now it’s time for Troll Patrol where we ‘detain’ a social media commentator and charge them with gaslightery and general online mayhem.
We’ve had a lot of Leinster/Munster trolling in recent weeks and with more no doubt to come ahead of their annual Christmas meeting, it’s probably best to look elsewhere for this week and no better than Brendan Nel to provide some faux South African victimhood after this announcement about Antoine Duponte…
Irish Shield
Interprovincial A Championship
Celtic Challenge
All Ireland Leagues
WOMEN’S AIL
MEN’S AIL
SVNS
NEXT ROUND : PERTH JAN 24-26, 2025
CHALLENGE CUP
Premiership
🔝🐱🐴
ProD2
Harpin Prediction League
THIS SEASON THE HPL IS ADDING A NEW KNOCKOUT COMPETITION
CALLED “THE HARPIN MUG”
(BECAUSE THE PRIZE IS AN ACTUAL MUG SO WE COULDN’T CALL IT A ‘CUP’)
THE SEEDINGS ARE DETERMINED BY THE STANDINGS AFTER ROUND 6
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FULL BRACKET BELOW
NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’
Friday – Leinster v Connacht preview featuring Keego
14 December 2024; Andrew Porter of Leinster is tackled by Pierre Fouyssac of ASM Clermont Auvergne during the Champions Cup Pool 2 match between Leinster and ASM Clermont Auvergne at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. Photo by Sam Barnes/Sportsfile
I can’t actually remember a worse Leinster lineout performance in over 20 years. Some of the handling was also atrocious.
Again, similar to some of Ireland’s performances recently, our players seem to constantly get isolated at the breakdown.
We also appeared to unnecessarily overcomplicate a lot of our handling and passing when being a bit more direct would have been the wiser choice.
Some worrying flaws from Ireland that have seeped into Leinster’s performances.
Kevin Kelehan
Line out is dysfunctional, I know Dan Sheehan is out but without him it has been a disaster, making sure he is fully fit has to be the number 1 objective for Leinster, the throwing today was so bad you’d nearly have JVdF throwing in and Kelliher/McCarthy in for scrummaging and loose play. Fix that problem and there are so many positives from today. The signings of Barrett, Snyman and Slimani are all hits, Sam Prenddergast was outstanding, his tactical kicking, distance to touch off penalties and passing were all really great. Henshaw and Ringrose both superb and Jimmy O’Brien looking close to his best again. A point dropped today but equally 4 points won against a slumbering European giant that was awake today.
Paul Lacey
Will we ever find another Andrew porter. He has to be burnt out .clarkson is playing brilliant rugby. Jvd & Morris need a break..
David Ryle
Scrappy game but a win is a win.
Colette Caddle
An amazing game, two excellent sides but Leinster line outs need a lot of work.
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Sunday evening match meant Monday evening pod recording so everything was pushed back this week, for the third week in a row Ciarán Duffy had to sub in for a late withdrawal and he joined Rich Mifsud going back over Leinster’s win in Bristol.
A selection of eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the rugby media landscape
TOM VOYCE RIP
MUNSTER MIKE
WELSH SNUB
HOGG WATCH FINALE?
CONSTRAINEDGATE
(CLICKBAIT OF THE WEEK)
HARPIN ON…THE CHAMPIONS CUP’S PRESTIGE
For this week’s bonus chat we wondered if the Champions Cup is losing its prestige. Truth be told I didn’t really say all I wanted to, I forgot to bring up the lack of respect with which the French teams in particular treat the competition when it comes to team selection, and also how the introduction of the South African sides has been far from perfect given the amount of frequent flyer miles they have to put in. But overall I’d say we hit most of the rest of the topic.
LEINSTER SQUAD UPDATE
HARPIN’ POSSIBLE MATCHDAY 23 V CLÉRMONT
Barrett, T O’Brien, Ringrose, Henshaw, J O’Brien, Prendergast, Gibson-Park
Porter, Kelleher, Clarkson, J McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, van der Flier, Doris (c)
G McCarthy, Healy, Slimani, Snyman, Conan, McGrath, R Byrne, Turner
caveat : I have no “ITK” a la Thornley
INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
N/A
INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:
N/A
INJURY UPDATE – NOT AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
Ciarán Frawley: was withdrawn at half-time against Bristol Bears with a back injury and will require further assessment but is unavailable for selection.
James Lowe: is unavailable for selection after picking up a calf injury and is due for further assessment this week.
Hugo Keenan: is unavailable for selection after picking up a wrist injury and is unavailable for the next few weeks.
NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:
Dan Sheehan, Rob Russell, Will Connors, Jamie Osborne and Tadhg Furlong.
RADIO RETURN
All going well I’ll be resuming my radio ‘bit’ on DublinSouth FM right after the 5 o’clock news on Friday, be sure to check it out.
HARPIN’ WRAPPED
We’re all getting our Wrapped summaries so might as well share some of the Harpin’ info…I know they only focus on the positive so let’s just say we won’t be throwing too many bouquets at ourselves but still always good to learn that listenership is increasing and although 39 is an extremely humble number compared to the big content creators, knowing that’s the number of Spotify users who have Harpin as their top listen each week is something to be chuffed about. And the podcast which was most popular is far from a surprise given the way this rugby year has gone.
TROLL PATROL
Now it’s time for Troll Patrol where we ‘detain’ a social media commentator and charge them with gaslightery and general online mayhem.
Starting to think the Harpin contributors are actively trying to get into this feature and if so who am I to deny them the honour??? This is in reponse to some of the fallout to “Constrainedgate” as I mentioned in the Front 5 video.
Irish Shield
Interprovincial A Championship
All Ireland Leagues
WOMEN’S AIL
MEN’S AIL
SVNS
NEXT ROUND : PERTH JAN 24-26, 2025
CHALLENGE CUP
Premiership
🔝🐱🐴
ProD2
Harpin Prediction League
THIS SEASON THE HPL IS ADDING A NEW KNOCKOUT COMPETITION
CALLED “THE HARPIN MUG”
(BECAUSE THE PRIZE IS AN ACTUAL MUG SO WE COULDN’T CALL IT A ‘CUP’)
THE SEEDINGS ARE DETERMINED BY THE STANDINGS AFTER ROUND 6
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FULL BRACKET BELOW
NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’
Friday – Leinster v Clérmont preview with Keego
Return of Harpin’ Dublin South radio slot after 5pm news
8 December 2024; Jordie Barrett of Leinster during the Champions Cup Round 1 match between Bristol Bears and Leinster at Ashton Gate in Bristol, England. Photo by Brendan Moran/Sportsfile
First half was poor, but the second half was loads of fun and I especially enjoyed the two tries from Sam ‘Not A Running Threat’ Prendergast
Louis Hoffman
Could a scrum ‘expert’ explain to me, what all that nonsense was about? Was it the refs fault?
Kevin Kelehan
Dreadful ref, his scrum time nearly wrecked the game completely. The bench was ridiculously over strength but thankfully it worked a charm when introduced, a BP on the road is all that history will record in a game of two halves.
Jackie McEachern
Definitely a “game of two halves”. As others have said, our bench obviously made a huge difference. While the reffing was horrible, we showed good composure in the first half when we had two yellow cards to attack and score a try.
Brian Patrick Donnelly
match ruined by inept, pedantic, awful refereeing. We were good for 20 minutes and that was that.
Shane Mcdonald
Just watching it it now at half time but how on gods green earth did the ref linesman tmo miss the very very very obvious hands in the ruck when jvdf nearly got over in the corner
Stevie wonder could have seen that and tv kept showing it over over over 🤦
Greg Kelly
BP away to the 2nd placed team in England is not to be sniffed at. The officiating was poor. We got little change from the officials in the first half but credit to the lads they worked around it well. Not sure how the TMO doesn’t intervene to card Thacker for pulling the ball out of Joshs hands on the goal line in the first half but comes in to reverse a lineout🤷♂️
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