80+ column : 09/05/23

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

Friday, June 12, 2012 is when Keego posted his first article on the old HarpinOnRugby.net website, titled “Keego on…Kidney & Kryptonite”.  Then on Friday, March 1, 2013 we got the first offering from Cian “RugbyKino” O’Muilleoir, titled “Stat of the Nation Address”.  For over 10 years they have both added their own brand of awesome content and it was great to have two “old school” contributors help me wrap the win over the Sharks for our latest pod.

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HARPIN ON…LEINSTER’S SQUAD MANAGEMENT

For our bonus clip we harped on Leinster’s enviable headache of keeping a 60-strong squad of players happy, over the season as a whole and particularly over this period of weekly knockout fixtures.

One point I forgot to mention was the critical cultivation of what I call “switch hitting props”, a kind of crude adaptation of baseball terminology but I still like to use it.  Allowing the likes of Andrew Porter and Cian Healy to be match ready on both sides of the front row has played a major role in Leinster’s ability to react to injuries over the course of a match AND a season over the past couple of years.

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JORDAN LARMOUR TRY TIK TOK

Might have been against 14 (or as Kino pointed out just before this TikTok clip, essentially 13 due to an injury to du Toit) but Harry Byrne’s crossfield kick to Larmour for our third try was still a joy to watch.

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“WHY WE LOVE RUGBY” 🤢

I’m sorry but this really, really, REALLY bugs me.  Just to be clear, I don’t mean the sporting act itself, rather the fact that people try to make out that you only see things like this in rugby.  NOT. THE. CASE.   It really is very simple – first, there are examples of good sportsmanship in all sports but also, it’s not like rugby is perfectly clean all the time either.  The whole concept of “rugby values” never really sat well with me, partly because it’s not sport-specific but also there’s a tinge of elitism to it as well.

Can we not just say this was a nice thing to do and move on?


AVIVA FATIGUE

I’m calling it “Avivapalooza”, namely the festival of rugby at Irish HQ that goes way back to Ireland’s Grand Slam victory.  From March 18 until now there have been 8 weekends, with 5 of them having Leinster/Ireland at the Aviva, 1 at the RDS and the other two literally in the other half of the world.  All this with two and possibly three more to come over the next few weeks.  Is this me complaining?  Absolutely not.  Am I agreeing with those ABL factions on social media who claim the sport is rigged?  Also absolutely not – with the exception of the HCC final for which Ireland was due, home advantage is earned and Leinster have definitely done that on the pitch.  Still worth noting how often we’re going to the venue these days, though.  Reminds me of the 2012/13 season when a similar series of quirky happenings saw the RDS host 5 weeks of matches in a row.  Not the easiest to sell when you live in a house where you’re the only egg-chasing nut!!!! 


DOING THE DOUBLE

While I’m on the subject of Leinster’s knockout rugby fetish, I might as well take the excuse to bring up my constant bugbear over the structure of the European rugby season.  I have said for a long, long time that it needs an overhaul to an extent where the two major competitions that every club can win each season are played in separate blocks over the season.  

That way not only can a club be rewarded for being on form in the earlier half of the season, but also it would remove what I think is a ridiculous requirement for coaches to pick and choose which matches they want to prioritize over the course of a season.  The ideal should be for coaches to select their best available squad for every weekend and while I know this can’t ALWAYS be done, the status quo rules it out altogether and just because it has been normalised over decades doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be changed as far as I’m concerned.

I know Leicester, Wasps, Toulouse, Exeter and Sarries have all managed to “do the double” over the years (although one or two of the more recent ones do come with COVID/salary cap asterisks) but as things stand right now I have to wonder if Leinster are the only team that could possibly have the resources to come close to winning both if something doesn’t change.  I mean as much as that fact pleases me as a fan of the province, it certainly doesn’t when I look at it as a fan of the sport.


HCC FORMAT

There’s a lot in this Indo interview with the IRFU CEO but one sentence caught my eye on first read…I’ve mentioned the HCC format quite a bit on this column throughout the season, how it doesn’t bother me as much as it seems to bother a lot of fans, but it looks like we’re going to have it for the next campaign too which of course would mean more complaints.

“EPCR is so important to Irish Rugby and the provinces. Getting its structure right is critical,” he adds, stating that he is involved in a consultation process with EPCR to update the structures from 2024/’25.”

AI RUGBY : LEINSTER V SHARKS DRY RUN

My inner nerd loves doing it so whether you like it or not, this will become a regular Harpin’ feature.  On Friday once the team is announced I’ll be feeding the two matchday squads into ChatGPT using the prompt below to see what it comes up with. 

On our Preview Show the score will update throughout the pod and I’ll provide the actual receipts here in the 80+.   As you can see below, the AI felt Leinster would also win well, albeit with a few more tries from our guests.

PROMPT

Imagine a game of 15-a-side rugby union between Leinster Rugby and Cell C Sharks over two halves of 40 minutes with the two lineups outlined below, taking into account the current reputation and form of all the players involved.

Leinster :  15. Hugo Keenan 14. Jordan Larmour 13. Ciarán Frawley 12. Charlie Ngatai 11. Dave Kearney 10. Harry Byrne 9. Luke McGrath > CAPTAIN

1. Michael Milne 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Ryan Baird 5. Jason Jenkins 6. Max Deegan 7. Scott Penny 8. Caelan Doris

16. John McKee 17. Andrew Porter 18. Cian Healy 19. Joe McCarthy 20. Jack Conan 21. Jamison Gibson-Park 22. Ross Byrne 23. Liam Turner

Cell C Sharks : 15 Aphelele Fassi 14 Marnus Potgieter 13 Lukhanyo Am (c) 12 Ben Tapuai 11 Makazole Mapimpi 10 Boeta Chamberlain 9 Grant Williams 

1 Ox Nche 2 Bongi Mbonambi 3 Thomas du Toit 4 Corne Rahl 5 Gerbrandt Grobler 6 James Venter 7 Vincent Tshituka 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe

16 Fez Mbatha 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu 18 Carlu Sadie 19 Jeandre Labuschagne 20 Phepsi Buthelezi 21 Cameron Wright 22 Nevaldo Fleurs 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg

Write 2000 words on the progress of the match in the form of a timeline (no conclusion, just the timeline only) reporting incidents like tries, conversions, penalties, injuries and yellow or red cards. 

PRINTOUT

0-10 minutes: The game starts with a lot of back-and-forth action as both teams try to find their footing. However, it is Leinster who strikes first as winger Jordan Larmour breaks through the Sharks’ defense to score a try. Harry Byrne converts the try to give Leinster an early 7-0 lead.

10-20 minutes: The Sharks respond with a try of their own as winger Makazole Mapimpi finishes off a counter-attack. Boeta Chamberlain’s conversion levels the scores at 7-7.

20-30 minutes: Leinster regains their lead as Charlie Ngatai scores a clever try following a quick tap penalty. Byrne once again adds the extras to make it 14-7 in favor of the home team.

30-40 minutes: The Sharks turn up the pressure and win a penalty that Chamberlain successfully kicks to reduce Leinster’s lead to 14-10.

40-45 minutes: Just before half-time, Leinster scores a third try as lock Ryan Baird crashes over the try line. Byrne’s conversion gives the home team a 21-10 lead at the break.

Half-time: Leinster 21-10 Sharks

45-55 minutes: The Sharks start the second half strongly and score two tries in quick succession through Aphelele Fassi and captain Lukhanyo Am. However, Chamberlain misses both conversion attempts, leaving the score at 21-20 in favor of Leinster.

55-62 minutes: Leinster fights back and scores their fourth try of the match through prop Tadhg Furlong. Byrne’s successful conversion increases Leinster’s lead to 28-20.

62-67 minutes: Sharks’ winger Marnus Potgieter is shown a yellow card for a high tackle on Larmour.

67-75 minutes: Leinster capitalizes on their numerical advantage and scores two more tries through replacement scrum-half Jamison Gibson-Park and flanker Caelan Doris. Byrne converts both tries to extend Leinster’s lead to 42-20.

75-80 minutes: The Sharks score a consolation try through reserve center Rohan Janse van Rensburg, but it is too little too late as Leinster runs out comfortable 42-27 winners.

Full-time: Leinster 42-27 Sharks


INJURY REPORT

Some decent news this week, still makes for an interesting selection at the weekend though….

POSSIBLE 23 V MUNSTER 

Frawley, Kearney, Ngatai, Ringrose, T O’Brien, McGrath, H Byrne

Milne, Kelleher, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Jenkins, Baird, Connors, Deegan

McKee, Porter, Clarkson, McCarthy, Conan, JGP, R Byrne, Larmour

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

official report

Joe McCarthy came through the game at the weekend against Cell C Sharks with no issues after his recovery from an ankle injury.

Rónan Kelleher was involved in the wider match day squad at the weekend and will be available to train fully this week after his recovery from a shoulder injury.

Scott Penny has entered the Graduated Return to Play Protocols and will be further assessed as the week progresses.

Robbie Henshaw is expected to step up his rehabilitation from a minor quad issue this week and will be further assessed as the week progresses.

James Lowe is expected to step up his rehabilitation from a calf injury and will be further assessed as the week progresses.

Cian Healy picked up an ankle injury against Cell C Sharks and will be further assessed as the week progresses.

There are no further updates on:
Vakhtang Abdaladze (neck), Ed Byrne (tricep), Rhys Ruddock (hamstring), Johnny Sexton (groin), Jamie Osborne (knee), Martin Moloney (knee)


AIL UPDATE

We’ve been updating this segment all season so even though we covered the AIL final on the pod, I’d still like to offer congrats to all involved at Terenure College RFC for capping off a fine campaign with the championship.  It was a comprehensive win on the day for sure but overall after starting the league with a long unbeaten run it was no more than they deserve.

There were of course a host of other matches over the weekend as the promotion and relegation issues across the five AIL divisions were sorted out.  Shannon’s win over Highfield means they remain in the top flight with City of Armagh being the only newcomers next season.  Also congrats to my “alma mater” Blackrock College who beat MU Barnhall at Stradbrook to more them up to the second tier.

AIL FINAL

Clontarf 24 Terenure 50

DIVISION 1A PROMOTION/RELEGATION PLAY-OFF FINAL:

Shannon 32 Highfield 12

DIVISION 1B PROMOTION PLAY-OFF FINAL:

Blackrock College 29 MU Barnhall 21 

DIVISION 2A PROMOTION/RELEGATION PLAY-OFF FINAL:

UL Bohemians 20 Dungannon 16

DIVISION 2B PROMOTION PLAY-OFF FINAL:

 Skerries 30 Bruff 15


SEVENS UPDATE

The Sevens circuit kicks back into gear this weekend and for the women Toulouse is actually the final tournament of the series.  The way the standings look I very much doubt we can crack the top four but we should be anxiously looking over our shoulders at both Fiji and GB behind us so we’ll need a strong showing with Brazil, Australia and hosts France in our pool.

Meanwhile for the men it is the penultimate leg of the series with Twickers still to come the following weekend.  A shocker of a  Singapore leg has us down in 9th on the ladder, a big drop since our excellent silver in Dubai at the start of the season.  If we can click over the next two weeks however we can more up a place or two and we’re up against Samoa, Oz & Japan this weekend.

TOULOUSE SEVENS

FRIDAY MAY 12

10:28AM IRELAND WOMEN V FRANCE

11:45AM  IRELAND MEN V SAMOA

4:04PM IRELAND MEN V AUSTRALIA 

7:05PM IRELAND WOMEN V AUSTRALIA

SATURDAY MAY 13

9:43AM IRELAND WOMEN V BRAZIL

10:37AM IRELAND MEN V JAPAN

1:42PM WOMEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN

3:10PM MEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN



MLR UPDATE

Not going to be able to watch a game back this week, although that’s ok because as I said before I have adopted the New England Free Jacks as my team for this season and they were off for this round.

But even with the bye week they remain a healthy 9pts clear in the East, and they can extend that lead even further if they win next weekend against Old Glory.  Meanwhile out West the San Diego’s win in Utak means they also have a cushion with Seattle and Houston, who meet next weekend, also in the playoff positions for now.

ROUND 12

ATL 27-12 CHI

DAL 3-7 OGDC

UTAH 16-26 SD

NYI 54-19 NOLA



ROUND 13

TOR V ATL

NOLA V SD

HOU V SEA

DAL V UTAH

OGDC V NE

CHI V NYI


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

Well.  All season 1st place in the HPL has switched back and forth between myself and RugbyKino, only for Mark Jackson to leap over both of us into top spot with just three matches left to predict!!!  Like I have always said I’m mostly happy not to be the cellar dweller this season (that honour was clinched by Keego literally months ago) but still to have come so close it’s a bit of a pain to drop to 3rd towards the end.  My biggest errors recently were forgetting one match altogether in the last round, and not believing in Munster wanting victory more than Glasgow in this one.


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

It’s all about Munster now.  Things should be relatively normal for the coming week so be sure to stay tuned to all our usual corners of social media to keep up with our latest content.

 In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : 02/05/23

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

Hopefully Mark Jackson will be able to return to our pod lineup soon, and we’re grateful to Conor Cronin for stepping in for him on Sunday to join Tom Coleman, and as ever they did a bang up job covering all the harpin’ points.  There were a couple of incidents that needed some video to help illustrate so I’ll deal with them further down the column, as well as the very selective interpretations from those who MIGHT have been using a little bias…

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HARPIN ON…LEINSTER’S ⭐OF THE MATCH CONTENDERS

Disagreeing or at least debating the award of Player or Star of the Match awards (Sidebar – why are some people making such a big deal about the switch away from MotM? Get over it FFS) has been common this season which ain’t a bad position for any team to be in.  This match was certainly no exception so for the bonus clip we each selected a player and harped on their performance.  And even THAT wasn’t enough so there was an extra name thrown into our main TikTiok clip, see below.

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JACK CONAN & JAMES RYAN TIK TOKS 

See above for the reason behind the Conan TikTok, but I also thought it was worth producing a 2nd from the Toulouse match because watching it with the naked eye I was blown away by James Ryan’s determined grab ahead of the JVDF try at the weekend.  It really did look like it had been turned over but he simply wasn’t having it.

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We decided to harp on a little more than the Bulls result on this week’s wrap! I wonder why…

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THE WEEKLY ABL INQUEST

All day Sunday there was a heated discussion online about a supposed travesty that might have helped Leinster win…well, I suppose that could be said about pretty much ANY given Sunday over the past few seasons, but this time it was over the incidents involving Porter and Neti. When I was watching the match live I missed the Porter one, and while I did see the Neti hit on JVDF, I missed the very important context of the clash just before it, and after watching all the subsequent replays, I still missed it.

This continued online with sometimes still photos and more often slowed-down footage of the second clash somehow serving as “proof” that the incident shouldn’t have been a penalty. Thankfully someone ended up sharing the full incident which you can see below.

But I’d rather focus on the groupthink that is behind these campaigns for now. We started the season by talking about this ABL or “Anyone But Leinster” groupthink. To be clear, I don’t actually mind it, the only thing I’d want to do is acknowledge that it exists. A team that wins as often as Leinster do is bound to have haters, even or possibly especially Irish ones.

Generally their MO is to search for one or two gombeen Leinster fan comments (of which there will be some for sure, because being a gombeen has nothing to do with where you’re from) and make it out like that represents the whole province. Or in the case of Sunday, just make it look like there’s some grand conspiracy to help Leinster and/or Ireland win.

Sad, really.


THAT 5022 AND THE REACTION

I wouldn’t class this as an example of ABL, more someone trying to suit a narrative of online commentary in general.

But anyway I’ll include our exchange as well as my original tweet that sparked it. For full disclosure when Conor said on the pod that it shouldn’t have been a 5022 that was news to me so I went back to confirm it and just wanted to share that with my followers.

I mean, of COURSE it’s over analysis, but isn’t that what’s to be expected from a fansite????


GREG MCWILLIAMS

I’ve never met Greg, and all I’ve heard is that he’s a nice guy who apparently has been thrown under the bus. I really think his “I see them as my daughters” comment during the Six Nations campaign was incredibly tone deaf but overall to make it look like it was just his coaching that led to the results over the past month or so doesn’t exactly sit well.

As Tom pointed out on our pod, the fact that Cliodhna Moloney scored two tries and won PotM for Exeter in the Allianz Cup final on the very same day the test side was picking up the wooden spoon speak volumes.

For me this line in a recent article from Sinead Kissane says it all…

She was the only person in the player’s representative group after the explosive letter to the Government who didn’t retire from international rugby. Since then, she hasn’t had a look-in with the national squad.

Sinéad Kissane: Ireland hit rock bottom as Cliodhna Moloney snub comes back to bite Greg McWilliams’ side

…assuming this to be true, the question does need to be asked if there is a blackballing policy in place, and if so, then it surely must be a major contributory factor to all that is going on in Irish Women’s rugby.

And here we see what makes speaking out about these things very difficult. Because when you talk about the Moloneys and the Griffins who aren’t there, plus the likes of Parsons who are prioritised for the Sevens circuit, you end up throwing a good bit of shade at those who actually togged out for those five matches. Unless you’re Ewan McKenna of course, who chose simply to mock them to satisfy his Army of Incels followers.

I know I don’t follow the women’s game regularly but from my vantage point at least within the overall sport, it really does look like it’s not so much dinosaurs in the decision making positions, rather ostriches who don’t want to see what really needs to be done.

Just. Listen.

UPDATE – Just saw a report that rumours of his leaving the post were greatly exaggerated? Very strange to see a story linger in the news cycle for so long if it was that wrong. Anyway, whether he’s still the coach or not, the fundamental issues remain the same.


LONDON IRISH

Not sure where this story is heading but the point to be made is that it is hardly a surprise as it was clear when both Worcester and Wasps were in trouble that they weren’t the only ones.

It’s difficult enough to understand how 8th place in the Premiership can qualify for Europe when it only has 11 clubs without another one going under as well. Fingers crossed they are able to sort something out mostly for the sake of all those employed by the club.


AI RUGBY : LEINSTER V TOULOUSE DRY RUN

Been dabbling in AI in recent weeks, and this time I decided to ask ChatGPT on Friday to “play out” a match between Leinster and Toulouse using the selected teams. Below you see the prompt and how it played out, wasn’t a million miles off the actual result and I have to say I like the way it even had a try disallowed by the TMO!!!

Imagine a game of 15-a-side rugby union between Leinster Rugby and Stade Toulousain over two halves of 40 minutes with the two lineups outlined below, taking into account the reputation and form of all the players involved.

Leinster : 15. Hugo Keenan 14. Jordan Larmour 13. Garry Ringrose 12. Charlie Ngatai 11. Jimmy O’Brien 10. Ross Byrne 9. Jamison Gibson-Park

1. Andrew Porter 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Ross Molony 5. James Ryan (c) 6. Caelan Doris 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Jack Conan

16. John McKee 17. Cian Healy 18. Michael Ala’alatoa 19. Jason Jenkins 20. Ryan Baird 21. Luke McGrath 22. Harry Byrne 23. Ciarán Frawley. 

Toulouse : 15 T Ramos 14 JC Mailla 13 PL Barassi 12 P Ahki 11 M Lebel 10 R Ntamack 9 A Dupont

1 C Baille 2 P Mauvaka 3 D Aldegheri 4 R Arnold 5 E Meafou 6 J Willis 7 T Flament 8 F Cros

16 J Marchand 17 R Neti 18 D Ainu’u 19 A Roumat 20 R Elstadt 21 A Placines 22 P Graou 23 A Retière

Write 2000 words on the progress of the match in the form of a timeline (no conclusion, just the timeline only) reporting incidents like tries, conversions, penalties, injuries and yellow or red cards.


0’ – The match kicks off with Leinster receiving the ball and making their way up the field with several phases of play.

2’ – Toulouse gives away a penalty in their own half, which Ross Byrne converts to give Leinster an early lead of 3-0.

7’ – Toulouse’s Romain Ntamack takes a quick tap penalty and makes a break into Leinster’s half, but is tackled well by James Ryan.

10’ – After a couple of turnovers, Leinster’s Hugo Keenan collects a high ball and makes a run down the wing, but is eventually tackled into touch by Toulouse’s Matthis Lebel.

12’ – Toulouse’s Antoine Dupont spots a gap around the ruck and makes a break, but is brought down just short of the try line by Garry Ringrose.

15’ – Toulouse gives away another penalty in front of their own posts, which Ross Byrne slots over to make the score 6-0 in Leinster’s favour.

18’ – Toulouse’s Romain Ntamack misses a long-range penalty attempt, with the ball going wide of the posts.

20’ – Leinster’s Caelan Doris makes a break down the middle of the field and offloads to Garry Ringrose, who finds Jordan Larmour on the wing to score the first try of the game. Ross Byrne converts to make the score 13-0 to Leinster.

24’ – Toulouse’s Cyril Baille gives away a penalty at the scrum, and Ross Byrne makes no mistake in slotting it over to extend Leinster’s lead to 16-0.

28’ – Toulouse’s Piula Faasalele is shown a yellow card for a high tackle on Leinster’s Jimmy O’Brien.

30’ – Leinster opt for a scrum from the penalty, and after several phases of play, Andrew Porter crashes over the line to score Leinster’s second try of the game. Ross Byrne converts to make the score 23-0 to Leinster.

35’ – Toulouse finally get on the scoreboard, with Romain Ntamack sending a perfectly-weighted crossfield kick for Matthis Lebel to catch and score in the corner. Ntamack misses the conversion, leaving the score at 23-5.

40’ – The referee blows for half-time, with Leinster leading Toulouse 23-5.

42’ – The second half begins with Toulouse receiving the ball and making a strong start, working their way up the field through several phases of play.

50’ – Toulouse’s Pita Ahki breaks through Leinster’s defence and is brought down just short of the try line by Hugo Keenan.

54’ – Leinster’s Dan Sheehan is shown a yellow card for collapsing the maul.

57’ – Toulouse opt for a scrum from the penalty, and after a few phases of play, Thomas Ramos scores their second try of the game. Romain Ntamack adds the extras to make the score 23-12.

61’ – Leinster’s Jack Conan makes a break down the wing and offloads to Ciarán Frawley, who crashes over the line to score Leinster’s third try of the game. Frawley converts his own try to make the score 30-12 to Leinster.

65’ – Toulouse makes several substitutions, bringing on fresh legs in an attempt to turn the game around.

70’ – Leinster’s Ross Byrne kicks a penalty to extend their lead to 33-12.

75’ – Toulouse’s Romain Ntamack sends a crossfield kick for Matthis Lebel, who collects and scores his second try of the game. Ntamack adds the extras to make the score 33-19.

79’ – Leinster’s Harry Byrne scores a try in the corner, but it is disallowed by the TMO for a forward pass in the build-up.

80’ – The referee blows for full-time, with Leinster sealing a convincing 33-19 win over Toulouse in a game that saw their defence hold strong and their attack score three tries.


INJURY REPORT

Good to see there are no new additions to the treatment table, but that doesn’t take away the headache of selection for the Sharks in the quarterfinal.  With the HCC final date secured we really have no choice but to take out a decent amount of cotton wool even if the Sharks will use that to motivate them in their quest to prove us wrong to underestimate them.

I definitely think Hugo Keenan and our two props should be left out altogether, but elsewhere we might need some first team back up in case we’re chasing the game in the final quarter.  


POSSIBLE 23 V SHARKS

Frawley, Larmour, Ringrose, Henshaw, Kearney, R Byrne, McGrath

Healy, McKee, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Jenkins, Ruddock (c), Penny, Deegan

Sheehan, Milne, Clarkson, Ryan, Conan, Foley, H Byrne, J O’Brien.

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)


Cormac Foley trained fully last week after recovering from a hamstring injury and is available for selection this week.

Ryan Baird came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his recovery from a shoulder injury.

Josh van der Flier came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his recovery from an ankle injury.

Charlie Ngatai came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his recovery from a hamstring injury.

Michael Milne has come through the Graduated Return to Play Protocols and will be available for selection this week.

Joe McCarthy will step up his rehabilitation this week as he recovers from an ankle injury.

Rónan Kelleher will step up his rehabilitation programme this week as he recovers from a shoulder injury.

Tommy O’Brien will be further assessed this week as he continues to recover from a shoulder injury picked up against Vodacom Bulls.

Robbie Henshaw will be further assessed this week after picking up a minor quad issue at training last week before a final decision is made on availability.

There are no further updates on:

Vakhtang Abdaladze (neck), Ed Byrne (tricep), Rhys Ruddock (hamstring), James Lowe (calf), Johnny Sexton (groin), Jamie Osborne (knee) and Martin Moloney (knee).


MLR UPDATE

My plan to watch a game every week via The Rugby Network has been foiled for the past few rounds by that ol’ thing called “real life” but over the bank holiday weekend I was able to catch the Eastern Conference derby between the New England Free Jacks and the reigning MLR Champions (albeit rebranded) New York.

Before I describe what happened, just to note that I have chosen New England as my adopted team for this season.  I actually hail from the Bay Area but since they are yet to be represented I have to go for New England as I also have a good few relatives out there.  And luckily, they are doing pretty well this season so for the rest of the 2023 campaign I’ll be focusing on their matches, although they are on a bye week in round 12.

Anyway for this clash they were at home in Veteran’s Memorial Stadium which is in a town called Quincy on the outskirts of Boston.  The weather was awful throughout and the main camera angle was cursed with raindrops on the lens pretty much from start to finish.

Overall I enjoyed this match a lot more than I should have given the scoreline – at first it looked like the Free Jacks would romp to a big win as they went straight into the NY 22 from the kickoff and a sweet crossfield kick from outhalf Portroz to Balekana saw them 5-0 up after just 5m.

But from there thanks to a combination of stubborn NY defence, about a gagillion handling errors mostly forced by the conditions, and missed place kicks from Portroz, they really struggled to add to that lead.  In fact there was to be only one more score throughout as Portroz did manage one before halftime.

Even though the second half was scoreless the fact that it remained so close kept the interest up, especially when a deliberate knockon by the NE fullback gave the visitors the last ten minutes with an extra man but they just couldn’t manage it and the home side held on right to the final whistle to secure the four points and keep themselves top of the east.

More on the league next week, since my new team has a bye I might look west and focus on the leaders San Diego as they face the Utah Warriors.

ROUND 11

SEA 61-19 DAL

NEFJ 8-0 NYI

NOLA 40-24 TOR

SD 29-16 HOU



ROUND 12

ATL V CHI

DAL V OGDC

UTAH V SD

NYI V NOLA


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

The URC is back for the next couple of weekends with 6 of the remaining 7 matches being played which means the title could be won or lost before the final. As you can see Kino went back ahead in Rd 18 and we certainly can’t rule out Mark Jackson from contention either, will be very interesting to see how the quarterfinals pan out.



THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Next up are the “Cell C Sharks” and I can confidently predict I will screw up saying that out loud at least once in both weekend pods. Keego will help me with the preview on Friday and will actually return for the wrap on Sunday along with Rugby Kino so be sure to subscribe to our pod feed to catch those as well as all our other online accounts where we post pretty much every day.

 In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : AI = Aviva Indignation, Airline Irritation, Actual Injuries

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

For this week’s wrap pod I was honoured to be joined by the Westmeath/Meath coaching combo of Mark Jackson & Tom Coleman and they did their usual excellent job of analysing what went on at the Aviva on Friday. They actually kind of apologised when we finished recording for harpin’ on for longer than usual but the thing about that is all that does is provide me with extra content so I’m not exactly compaining! As you can see below I managed a second bonus clip out of it.

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HARPIN ON…JIMMY O’BRIEN & LEINSTER’S SUCCESS

Like I said the lads gave me enough material for two bonus clips. The one we planned for was about Jimmy O’Brien – for the second week in a row I disagreed with the Star of the Match selection, not that Ringer played badly of course and scoring the first two tries was always going to put him up there, it’s just I felt JOB had so much opportunity to show off why he has not only cemented himself in Leinster’s European lineup but has even broken into Andy Farrell’s top tier as well.

Also for our Front Five segment at the start of the show I chose two articles which I felt covered areas usually left out of the discussion over the supposed “unfairness” regarding Leinster’s success – the first one actually turns the spotlight back on the other Irish provinces and their internal issues, while the second tries to appreciate the actual hard work put in across the 12 counties (which, I should probably point out, does not mean it’s ALL down to our hard work).

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DEFENCE MANIPULATION & HIGH BALL CATCHING TIK TOKS 

I was also able to produce two TikToks for the pod – the first might get taken down at some point as I used footage from the match but I wanted to highlight the amazing work done under the high ball. I actually planned to just do the Leinster catches but there were so many by the Tigers as well I had to do the lot, eleven altogether.

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It was quite an evening for catches at the Aviva on Good Friday…. #LEINvLEIC #HeinekenChampionsCup

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For the second TikTok I went our more traditional route by picking a quote from the pod and the second I heard Tom say “if you freeze it there…” I knew this was going to be my clip this was a perfect explanation of how Leinster were finding gaps in the second half.

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AI = AVIVA INDIGNATION

Every week I have to react to more whinging and moaning about perceived advantages enjoyed by Leinster & Ireland, and this time I thought an extra YouTube clip from the pod would cover it for this column, yet in between producing that and writing this there has been yet more of it.

Now it’s over the possibility that all of Leinster’s knockout matches could well be in the Aviva Stadium. Is that an advantage for us? Well of course it is. But the way it’s being presented in the Birdhouse is making it look like the organisers of the Champions Cup went out of their way to make it so and that is simply not the case.

Many seem to be selectively ignoring these facts…

* Leinster earned home adv in L16 & QF AND SF from pool stage, and the pool stage draw itself was earned from reaching the final four of last season’s URC.

* Semifinal venues meant to be “neutral” yes, but to stage an event you know you can get a crowd of 50k+ anywhere smaller would be madness, especially if anyone is actually suggesting taking it off the island of Ireland. Leinster’s only viable options are the Aviva & Croke Park, with the latter kind of tied up with other sports besides it’s also in Dublin anyway.

* The Final venue changes every year, and rarely has it been in Ireland.

I suppose the question I have to ask myself is…would I be complaining if this were happening with another country? I do know we spent a lot of time talking about how referees seemed to show favouritism towards the All Blacks when they were conquering all before them? Is this what it looks like from the other side and if so, which side is actually right?

Maybe it’s a bit of both, but one thing is for sure, the endless griping after every win does get really boring.


OPPOSITION FEEDBACK

For all my talk of whining after another Leinster win last Friday, to be fair I have to share this DM I got from Mike Cooper who hosts the great Leicester Tigers pod Rolling Maul. This is how you respond to a defeat in my book.

Just to say mate, what a privilege it was to see your boys execute in the second half. I was so proud of our chaps in the first 40, I felt we negated your power and carrying game (your ‘plan A’) – hopefully you were impressed by George Martin and Tommy Reffell! – but in the second 40, the switch of style to exploit our weakness out-wide was – on a second (painful) watch – breathtaking. The constant isolation of Potter (poor bastard, not the game to play your 4th pro game at 13!) was honestly the best accuracy and clarity I’ve seen at club level. Cullen/Lancaster, whoever pulled that trigger at half time, it is so, so impressive. I will still say some pundits (including your guest in the preview!) were not fair on where Leicester could trouble Leinster (and I thought that showed in the first half), but ultimately the quality and cohesion of your lads shone through in a big way. A privilege to watch Ringrose, too. Best of luck for the rest of the tourny – one of the best club sides I’ve ever seen!! Happy for you to throw this into your pod as “opposition feedback!”.


AI = AIRLINE IRRITATION

Have to say I expected more from the Sharks and Stormers last weekend in Europe, especially the latter. Again there has been griping about the amount of travel they’ve had to do over the course of the season, and I guess that’s fair despite the similar distances in Super Rugby because our calendar is a lot more punishing in that regard.

That said, if we’re going to talk about perceived advantages in Europe when it comes to the South African teams, it’s worth pointing out something I have flagged here since it was announced they were joining the HCC – between the pool phase and the knockouts the European clubs all had to pray that their top players survived the Six Nations while the South Africans had no such test involvement.

Overall the answer to most of these cries of injustice is that rugby union is and always will be perfectly imperfect and trying to level the playing field in one area will generally make it more crooked in another.


AI = ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

Since I’m on an AI theme for some of my headings in this column, I thought I’d share this experiment I did on Sunday morning when I downloading a ChatGPT app – I asked it to come up with a 500-word report on Leinster’s win over the Tigers and I didn’t give it the final score. As you can see, while it did have the scoreline right a lot of the details in the report were a tad wide of the mark, with a few retired and injured players put in the lineup plus the misconception that it was a pool game. But this definitely sounds like a match I would have like to have seen anyway!!!

Leinster secured their place in the quarter-finals of the Champions Cup with a resounding 55-24 win over Leicester Tigers at the RDS Arena in Dublin on Saturday. The Irish team ran in eight tries to Leicester’s three to extend their lead at the top of Pool Five.

Leinster took the lead in the 12th minute through winger James Lowe, who collected a cross-field kick from fly-half Johnny Sexton and touched down in the corner. Sexton missed the conversion but made amends five minutes later with a penalty to extend Leinster’s lead to eight points.

Leicester responded with a try of their own in the 21st minute, with winger Kobus van Wyk finishing off a flowing move from the Tigers. But Leinster hit back almost immediately with a try from prop Tadhg Furlong, who powered over the line from close range.

The home side continued to dominate and added two more tries before half-time, with Jamie Heaslip and Garry Ringrose both crossing the whitewash. Sexton converted both tries to give Leinster a commanding 27-7 lead at the break.

The second half was a more even affair, with Leicester scoring two tries through Dan Cole and Jonny May. But Leinster had too much firepower and responded with tries from Ringrose, Jack Conan and a brace from replacement hooker Sean Cronin.

Leinster’s performance was impressive, with their attacking play causing Leicester all sorts of problems. Sexton was outstanding, controlling the game with his kicking and passing, while Lowe and Ringrose were a constant threat on the wings.

Leicester, on the other hand, were disappointing, with their defence leaking too many tries. They did show some attacking intent, but were unable to match Leinster’s intensity and skill.

The win means that Leinster are guaranteed a place in the knockout stages of the Champions Cup, with a home quarter-final looking increasingly likely. They will be considered one of the favorites to lift the trophy, given their dominant performances in the competition so far.

Leicester, on the other hand, have little chance of progressing to the quarter-finals, with only a slim chance of qualifying as one of the best runners-up. They will be looking to bounce back in domestic competitions, with the aim of qualifying for next year’s Champions Cup.

Overall, it was a thoroughly entertaining game of rugby, with Leinster’s class shining through. They will look to take this momentum into their remaining Champions Cup games, as they aim to lift the trophy for the fifth time in their history.


“KILLING THE GAME” TWEET

I don’t always agree with Tim’s Twitter takes but I’m right there with him here…one of the best responses to the “killing the game” nonsense I have seen. PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM HEAD INJURIES SUSTAINED IN RUGBY. Many others have experienced life-altering repercussions. Why oh why oh why are we allowing this debate to continue in such a way as to give so much oxygen to those who’s only inconvenience is to sit in their armchairs a bit longer while the officials review a call. The real debate is happening among people who actually want to save the game, not kill it.


AI = ACTUAL INJURY (REPORT)

Obviously the worries from Friday mostly surround Ryan Baird and James Lowe, although following the Leinster report I’ve heard rumblings that Baird’s injury may not be as bad as first thought. As for Lowe, well if he misses knockouts because of a skip of delight following a try then I’ll challenge anyone who tries to say we’re getting all the luck!

At time of writing the squad hasn’t been announced for Leinster’s South African trek although I see Jason Jenkins was put front and centre for a presser so I’m thinking he might be one of the top tier players travelling, along with Luke McGrath and possibly Jordan Larmour.

UPDATE : Leinster have since announced the touring squad and with the likes of Larmour, Frawley and McGrath left behind so below is a revised possible 23…

POSSIBLE 23 V LIONS

Cosgrove, Russell, T O’Brien, Turner, Kearney, Tector, McCarthy

E Byrne, Barron, Ala’alatoa, Deeny, Jenkins, Ruddock, Connors, Deegan

McElroy, Milne, Clarkson, Soroka, Culhane, Murphy/Gunne, Prendergast, King

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Caelan Doris: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his return from the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

Garry Ringrose: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his return from the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

N/A

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Ryan Baird: injured his shoulder in the first half against Leicester Tigers and will be unavailable for a few weeks

James Lowe: injured his calf in the second half against Leicester Tigers and will be further assessed this week

There are no further updates on:

Josh van der Flier (ankle), Johnny Sexton (groin), Jamie Osborne (knee), Rónan Kelleher (shoulder), Joe McCarthy (ankle), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Martin Moloney (knee) and Charlie Ngatai (hamstring)


AI = ALL-IRELAND (LEAGUE UPDATE)

The good news for AIL fans is that all five matches in the final round robin stage have playoff/relegation implications. Even though the top four sides are decided the actual rankings and home advantages are still up for grabs. Tarf aren’t quite mathematically sure of 1st place yet although I reckon Terenure are a bit more concerned with overcoming relegation-playoff–threatened Shannon in case they get caught by Cork Con who travel to play the Cookies. And should Shannon cause an upset at Lakelands, the two Dublin universities will need wins although UCD have a tad more difficult task at Castle Avenue as Trinity host the bottom side Garryowen. Should be an interesting couple of hours from 2:30 on Saturday for sure.

Meanwhile in 1B there’s a three way race to qualify for the promotion playoff between Belvo, who have a tricky Dublin derby at Mary’s, Highfield who face Banbridge down the bottom of the table, and Buccaneers who host the newly crowned champions City of Armagh.

DIVISION 1A


ROUND 18

Ballynahinch v Lansdowne

Clontarf v UCD

Dublin University v Garryowen

Terenure College v Shannon

Young Munster v Cork Con


DIVISION 1B


ROUND 18

Banbridge v Highfield

Buccaneers v City of Armagh

Naas v Old Wesley

St Mary’s v Old Belvedere

UCC v Malone


SEVENS UPDATE

The Irish men’s side really had a Sevens stinker in Singapore for sure, losing five on the bounce finishing a dead last 16th to pick up just one point in the series. That knocks us out of the top eight and we’ll need a decent showing in the final two rounds to claw our way back up. We have definitely stumbled since our silver medal early in the season. The circuit resumes in May with men’s and women’s events in Toulouse before the final men’s one in London.


MLR UPDATE

For the past few weeks I’ve been featuring an MLR game for this column but with Easter and school midterm and all I just don’t have the time for this round. Stand out result from Round 8 was definitely the San Diego Legion toppling previously unbeaten Seattle making the Western Conference table look pretty interesting.

One thing I have yet to do for this feature is select a team to follow. Coming from the Bay Area of California as I do, there’s no natural choice although I do have quite a few relatives in New England as well so the Free Jacks seem the obvious alternative so maybe I’ll go for them, we’ll see.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 8

HOU 24-30 UTAH

SEA 20-23 SD

ATL 35-27 OGDC

TOR V NYI

NEFJ 31-19 CHI


ROUND 9

TOR V NEFJ

NOLA V ATL

HOU V DAL

UTAH V SEA

OGDC V NYI

SD V CHI


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

I know you’re all dying to be reminded of how the HPL stands going into the next round of the URC…there are only 23 more matches left for us to forecast and as you can see below, while the Jersey of Shame has long been decided, the top spot is very much up for grabs with up to four still in with a reasonable shout.


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

It’s back to the URC for us and we will of course be giving Saturday’s match in Jo’burg the full Harpin’ treatment with a preview before, a wrap pod after and all the usual features in between. In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP

80+ column : Demographics, discipline & deciders

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

After a hectic time putting together the Stormers wrap a week before, it was a much more comfortable process organising the Ulster one and myself and Conor were delighted to have Mark back with us after a spell on the sidelines. As ever the lads did a bang up job going through the relevant talking points.

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


HARPIN ON…RYAN BAIRD (“THE NEXT LEVEL ATHLETE”)

When your team wins, fans arguing over which player was the best is a bit like parents arguing over their favourite kid, yet while Jack Conan has been getting back to his Lions best in recent weeks, I think the general concensus among Leinster fans is that it was actually Ryan Baird who should have taken the Star of the Match award at the weekend, so for this week’s Bonus Clip myself, Mark and Conor had a chat about his abilities and what he is capable of in the future.

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DISCIPLINE V LEINSTER TIK TOK 

I think Mark hit the nail on the head here – Saturday’s match at the Aviva was closer than the scoreline suggests with discipline a clear deciding factor.

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RED HAND POD APPEARANCE

We have had Peter Lockhart on our pod a few times this season and on Tuesday night I am happy to return the favour by appearing on The Red Hand to go back over the match at the Aviva on Saturday. I’ll post a link here once it’s out and also share on social media.


DEMOGRAPHICS “V” COACHING

From Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:30pm to Saturday, April 1, 2023 12:30pm, the Irish rugby community was celebrating a Grand Slam. And so we should, as it is by far and away the single biggest achievement for fans of the men’s game among the Six Nations.

But why did the partying come to an abrupt end in less than two weeks? Because between lunchtime and 7pm on Saturday, three of the four Irish provinces got knocked out of Europe, with Leinster the last one standing.

So I guess that means we need a change of narrative, right? Hell, yeah – because, well, you know, clicks n stuff. Besides, sure it wasn’t Ireland that won the Grand Slam anyway, it was actually Leinster. So there’s that.

At least the buzzwords surrounding these cries of injustice have shifted from the old reliables like “private schools” and “avocado toast” and such – now they have all been packaged into a handy little soundbite – it turns out Leinster are winning everything, even international tournaments now, because, well, you know, “demographics”.

So if this is the theme arising from the online discourse, you can be sure the mainstream media is going to weigh in and stir the pot even further. When the Indo put this narrative to Stu Lancaster, he responded by pointing to the standards of coaching at the province (I mean the bare faced cheek of him, being a coach and all) and naturally once that was released into the Birdhouse, now we had a straight shootout between two possible reasons why the province is doing so well and it HAD to be much more of one than the other.

I’m so tired of this. But I know it’s not going to go away, if for no other reason than it’s impossible to control the tides of world rugby in such a way that raises all four provincial boats equally. Can’t be done. Does Irish rugby benefit greatly from the private school sector when it comes to producing world class athletes? Yes. And are the majority of those schools in Leinster? Yes. But that that make their success on the world stage less of an achievement for the country somehow? I guess it does to many.

Rather than get dragged down too far into the mud on this issue, I’ll instead try to go the opposite direction and offer an overview.

My biggest bugbear in rugby union is the Northern Hemisphere senior rugby calendar. And that has been the case ever since 2008 when I first began Harpin’ On Rugby. It makes absolutely no sense at all, with the top tier 6N competition jammed into the middle of the season and players having to jump in and out of squads several different times from August to July.

Yet when I put a pin in my objections and accept that the status quo, I cannot deny that of all the six unions involved at the elite level in these parts, none have been able to manage their product within that framework better than the IRFU. Yes, I know that sounds like ass-kissing, but I do criticize them on these pages as well so take it whatever way you choose. The fact remains that on top of the Grand Slams there have been other Six Nations championships, Triple Crowns, Heineken Cups for three provinces and even Celtic League titles for all four in the professional era.

Of COURSE things can be done better. That said, to what extent do we want the IRFU to put their thumb on the scale when it comes to the provincial branches governing their own affairs? If Leinster keeps on winning, does that mean the union’s job now it to curtail that success to make sure the others catch up? Actually take some best coaches, players and/or academy prospects out and move them around, essentially providing punishment for winning too much?

I guess what I’m trying to say is…does every Leinster victory now somehow “prove” that the IRFU is doing things wrong?

Look – I don’t want a tribal war. That’s why I’m typing these thoughts here on my site rather than diving down social media rabbit holes. I’m a Leinster fan and I would still be one if they hadn’t won any trophies at all since I started doing this, in fact we had exactly zero stars over our crest when I wrote my first post.

But this need to put an asterisk beside every good thing my team does really, really is getting….ridiculous? No, it’s not that. ….becoming more and more of a pain in the hole with each day? Well, yeah, but that’s not what I’m looking for. …boring? Yeah. Let’s go with that.

I get it that all four provinces are proud, and I also get that one progressing at a faster pace is frustrating, but if we’re to have a discussion about closing those gaps, can we at least do it with all the relevant issues out on the table and not just a few convenient stereotypes.

UPDATE – While my views above focus on general attitudes towards Leinster, Rugby Kino offered a good take with a view to looking at constructive ways forward…


HCC FORMAT 2023/24

We’ve been getting very mixed signals about the makeup of the 2023/24 Heineken Champions Cup. I have said before on this column that the two-pools of 12 format, while far from ideal, didn’t bug me half as much as it seems to have done for the vast majority of fans, which means they really should do something about it.

Yet while it was announced a while ago that the system was to be changed, the announcement of the dates for next year’s competition showed that there were still only going to be four rounds in the pool stages. And with the amount of qualifiers still locked at 24 (including 8 from just 11 functioning Premiership clubs, but that’s for another day’s column) then we have to ask ourselves how are they going to change things exactly?

My guess is that they might make it look like they’re giving the masses what they want with 6 pools of 4 but maybe within each pool the top two seeds will play home and away against the bottom two and not against each other, thus producing a schedule similar to the current method, just with a more traditional looking set of pool tables?

I have a feeling that whatever they’re doing, it could possibly cause more problems than it solves.


TRY COUNTBACK

Exeter beat Montpellier at the weekend even though the final score was 33-33 after extra time., because of a clause that states that teams level after the overtime could be separated by tries scored, and possible cards conceded too, if required. I have seen a lot of pushback against this method but personally I think it’s ok, ONCE EVERYBODY KNOWS going into the match. I wonder how many in Sandy Park knew the score?

This reminds me of an AIL final back in 2009 when it finished 19-19 between Shannon and Clontarf and they went to extra time only for news to be sent on to the pitch that actually if Shannon could see out the game with the scores level they’d win the trophy because they scored the game’s FIRST try.

Not sure if I’m a fan of that particular method but the point is that it was farcical that for a senior rugby match not everyone involved knew what was going on…and we multiply that farce by a lot when it comes to the highest level behind test rugby.

For me, every avenue possible should be taken to avoid competition progress based on a penalty shoot out. And we give bonus points in pool play for scoring tries, why can’t we reward a team in a knockout fixture for doing the same?


JORDI RETIREMENT

Somewhere in that group is Jordi Murphy who was winning the Leinster Schools Cup with Blackrock at the RDS just four days before Ireland won the 2009 Grand Slam in Cardiff.

He went on to earn further success for both Leinster and Ireland at senior level until moving to Ulster in 2018 and it’s sad to hear of his impeding retirement once the season is over. Obviously I’m hoping he doesn’t add to his trophy success, but definitely not in a bad way – I’m sure all fans of Irish rugby wish him nothing but the very best for his future.


INJURY REPORT

The Sexton news has pretty much been accepted at this stage, so it has to be said the injury report from Saturday at the Aviva could have been a lot worse. Obviously a rolled ankle never sounds good especially when it’s your World Player Of The Year but I have a feeling we’ll see Josh in blue again for Leinster this season, and with Scott Penny more than ready to step up I’d say give him a start against the Tigers this weekend. But then again I got nowhere near predicting the use of Jimmy O’Brien at 13 against Ulster so they suggested 23 below is far from written in stone!

POSSIBLE 23 V LEICESTER

Keenan, J O’Brien, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe, R Byrne, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Ryan, Jenkins, Baird, Penny, Doris/Conan

McKee, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan/Doris, McGrath, H Byrne, Larmour/Frawley

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Hugo Keenan: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his return from the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

Garry Ringrose: has come through the Graduated Return to Play Protocols, trained fully at the end of last week and will be available for selection this week

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Caelan Doris: has come through the Graduated Return to Play Protocols however missed the game last week with illness and will be further assessed this week

Josh van der Flier: rolled his ankle in the second half of the game against Ulster Rugby and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on availability

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

No further injuries to report from the game at the weekend.

There are no further updates on:

Johnny Sexton (groin), Jamie Osborne (knee), Rónan Kelleher (shoulder), Joe McCarthy (ankle), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Martin Moloney (knee) and Charlie Ngatai (hamstring)


AIL UPDATE

The top four in Div 1A was already pretty much set although Cork Con’s win over Terenure gave them a shot at beating them to a home semifinal although they’ll have to win at Young Munster on the final day to make that possible. The biggest result in Round 16 came at the Belfield Bowl where UCD not only fought back from 0-19 to take their Colours battle with Trinity, but it also helped their survival push at the bottom of the table, although with Shannon also winning it means the race to avoid a playoff for seems to involve the Limerick side and the two Dublin universities and going on form it looks like Trinity have the easiest task of the three.

Meanwhile in Div 1B, congrats to City of Armagh as they clinched the title with a narrow win over UCC which will now mean two Ulster sides in the top tier next season. It’s anyone’s guess who will take the playoff spot with Old Belvedere currently in 2nd although they must win at Templeville Road against Mary’s to be sure of it otherwise either Highfield or Buccaneers could overtake them.

Seems a bit strange having a week’s gap between the final two rounds but I guess that only heightens the tension for all still in contention across the five divisions.

DIVISION 1A

ROUND 17

Lansdowne 28-31 Clontarf

UCD 22-19 Dublin University

Cork Con 27-23 Terenure

Shannon 26-10 Ballynahinch

Garryowen 28-22 Young Munster



ROUND 18 (ALL SAT APR 15)

Ballynahinch v Lansdowne

Clonfarf v UCD

Dublin University v Garryowen

Terenure v Shannon

Young Munster v Cork Con


DIVISION 1B

ROUND 17 

Old Belvedere 27-27 Banbridge

City of Armagh 24-20 UCC

Highfield 21-7 Naas

Malone 29-13 St Mary’s

Old Wesley 40-10 Buccaneers



ROUND 18 (ALL SAT APR 15)

Banbridge v Highfield

Buccaneers v City of Armagh

Naas v Old Wesley

St Mary’s v Old Belvedere

UCC v Malone


SEVENS UPDATE

Not the best weekend for the Irish 7s programme down in Hong Kong – the men had a stinker of a pool and really needed to overcome the Blitzboks in their opener to have a hope of making the quarterfinals and couldn’t manage it.  However, once out of the top 8 the best you can do it finish 9th and they did manage that with 3 knockout wins including the final against Samoa so the damage was limited.

Meanwhile the women, who had to play while knowing their XVs team was struggling back in Cork, did reach the quarterfinals only came up against Australia for a second time then further defeats to France & USA meant they had to make do with 8th place overall.  

As you can see by the overall standings, both teams are anxiously looking over their shoulders hoping to avoid slipping further down the table although only the men are playing this weekend in Singapore and will be targeting wins against GB & Japan hoping to get back into the proper knockouts once more.


Saturday, April 8

2:30AM – IRELAND MEN V ARGENTINA

6:18AM – IRELAND MEN V GREAT BRITAIN

9:22AM – IRELAND MEN V JAPAN

Sunday, April 9

3:50AM – PLAYOFFS BEGIN


MLR UPDATE

If you’re a new reader of the column, I’m keeping tabs on USA’s pro rugby competition this season to see how the sport is progressing over there, and I’ll be studying one match each week throughout the season. After giving the conferences two weeks each so far, I decided on a cross conference battle this time as NOLA Gold were hosting the undefeated Seattle Seawolves, and what a match it was.

The match was played at the “Goldmine” and it was billed as the immovable object of the Gold defence coming up against the irresistible force of the Seattle backline. And sure enough, you couldn’t get a better start than the Seawolves’ kickoff sailing straight over the jumper’s head into the arms of their winger who sprinted to the line “Mack Hansen In Paris”-style to pen the scoring.

But the home side was yet to show off their defensive system and for the remainder of the first half they proceeded to strangle their opposition enough to give themselves opportunities at the other end, which they took to go in 21-10 at the break, and when a penalty try and yellow card stretched that lead to 18 after 43m, it looked like that was it.

Just a sidenote – when Seattle had a man on the naughty step I wouldn’t have held it against the US commentators if they used the hockey term “power play” to explain how NOLA had the advantage – anything that gets sports-mad Yanks into our game is a definite plus.

But anyway, back to the action, it seemed all that first half tackling took its toll on the home side and once the Seawolves got one try with a man down, they went on to burst open the floodgates reeling off another three to establish a multi-score lead of their own with just over ten minutes left.

Did that mean the Gold were done? Absolutely not and they pulled back within a point with the clock at 77 setting up a grandstand finish and although the restart went deep in the Gold 22, they kept it through the hands to emerge through gaps the length of the pitch only to somehow be hauled down short of the line allowing the Seattle blindside to jackle a decisive penalty.

I know this sounds bad, but the disgusted faces on the faces of the home crowd at the awarding of a penalty was good to see because it shows they were invested in the match right up to the end. And although the Gold have now lost more than they have won this season, they still look good enough to be playoff contenders so from what I have seen from this league so far, it would not surprise me if these same two teams contested the championship final later in the year.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 7

UTAH 26-24 NEFJ

DAL 14-11 TOR

CHI 21-38 HOU

NOLA 35-36 SEA

NYI 31-20 ATL

SD 48-26 OGDC



ROUND 8

NEFJ V CHI

TOR V NYI

ATL V OGDC

HOU V UTAH

SEA V SD


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Like I say I’m on the Red Hand pod during the week, then we’re all about the Good Friday visit of the Leicester Tigers with a preview show on Thursday, the wrap pod recording Sunday and all the usual features in between.

 In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP

80+ column : brilliance, begrudgery & blueprints

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE RESULT


Well, this got awkward…

“Back in the day” we used to hold competitions under a format I called “the unriggable raffle” where we got 100 entrants to earn a square on to a 10×10 grid and the winner would be determined by the final score of our feature rugby match of the weekend.  We only stopped doing them because the admin became too much but one thing you can say for sure was that I had no possible say in the winner.

Since those times we have had a few more conventional competitions and the latest one was in conjunction with the FANZO app which ran a prediction league for the Six Nations.  There were pints on offer for getting individual results right but you also won points on a league table so over the five weeks we were working towards an overall winner.

HOWEVER…to encourage people to join the league even after the Six Nations kicked off, we had an extra prize for Best Score In A Single Round and going into Super Saturday it looked like Andrew Byrne had posted an unassailable 67 in round 3.  As I was in town celebrating the Grand Slam a mate texted me to point out that I had gotten TWO of that Saturday’s winning margins bang on (including Ireland’s) which meant not only had I jumped to the bronze medal slot in the overall league, I also won the bonus prize with my score of 70!!!!!!!

Now the reason my mate was interested in letting me know was that he could also tell me that he actually jumped to second overall ahead of me!!!  And in a final twist to the whole thing the overall winner was actually fellow content creator Stephen “Master of None” Murphy, who also won his own Fanzo competition!!!

We plugged the competition with lines like “see if you can beat the experts”…I suppose with the exception of Ken, ye couldn’t ha ha ha….and just in case I need proof of my predictions here they are…


Seriously though, many thanks again to the FANZO crowd for getting involved it definitely added to the experience over the past couple of months.


CHARITY RAFFLE

Please get involved in the actual raffle below, an awesome prize for an extremely worthy cause.


WRAP OF A WRAP

Obviously it was an even greater pleasure to wrap last weekend’s match, and many thanks to Conor & Kino for being on hand to help me do so.  It was great to be able to say the words “Grand Slam” out loud on the pod again although shortly before recording I came up with a loophole for future years…once I make it clear that I’m actually talking about an elderly relative’s cooking, ie “Gran’s Lamb”, then I should be able to say it freely in future years.

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


HARPIN ON…SIMON EASTERBY & IRELAND’S DEFENCE

For the bonus clip this week we looked at what I consider to be the bedrock of Ireland’s success and wait until you get a load of the stat Kino highlights about tries conceded…it’s mind-blowing.

If you’re playing the clip above maybe pop over and subscribe to the channel too?  That’s where we post our Preview Show as well as other content throughout the week.


IRELAND’S RWC CHANCES TIK TOK 

Two TikToks to share this week, first a great point made by Kino as he wrapped up his pod contributions…

…and this other one I’ll just link to (click here) I vowed to break my “Grand Slam” embargo as soon as possible after full time if we won so what you see is a rather drunk me talking to my phone outside a pub on King’s Street Dublin between 7 and 7:30 Saturday evening…


STEWARD’S ENQUIRY

Much has been said about that Freddie Steward red card all over social media I know, including by yours truly on the pod, but I still have a few final points to make.

First, while I try to be open minded and take in views from the other side on decisions like this one, I now have a policy whereby should I hear something like “that was no way intentional” then I just stop reading or listening.  It’s not about intent.  It’s about duty of care.  And reckless can also be red.

Finally I’d like to show receipts from my views expressed on the pod.  When we see Twitter clips of the Steward/Keenan collision they always make it look like the two players’ starting positions were just feet apart, with the implication being that Steward had little or no time to react.


IMO this photo tells a different story.  Steward came from a good bit away and Keenan was always his man so he had a lot more time to prepare for the collision than many are letting on.  And again…to be very clear, that doesn’t mean he set out to clatter him in the head, I’m just saying he had more time to prepare better for contact. 

You could even argue that those saying he had little time to react are effectively saying he’s a shit full back because one of the most important roles they play is seeing all that is happening in front of them!

I mean, even if he WAS just “bracing for impact” like he claims, you can do that in many different ways and when you do it by turning your elbow you put yourself in a position to cause damage.  THIS is why the decision is red, in the hope that he, and others looking on, will change their behaviour in future.  But that objective becomes trickier when a host of commentators, including decorated former players like Matt Dawson, try to make it out like nothing was wrong about it.


UPDATE : the commission ruling has since dropped…

The player denied that he had committed an act of foul play worthy of a red card as described in Law 9.11. Having reviewed all the evidence, the Committee decided that: (i) head contact with an opposing player had occurred; (ii) there had been an act of foul play in breach of Law 9.11 in that the Player had been reckless in his actions and in his upright positioning as he approached and came into highly dangerous contact with the other player; and (iii) there were sufficient mitigating factors including the late change in the dynamics and positioning of the opposing player which should have resulted in the issue of a yellow card rather than a red card.

On that basis, the Committee did not uphold the red card and the player is free to play again immediately.

Guinness Six Nations press release

Obviously social media is going to be full of “I told you so’s” over the next few days but FWIW I still hold my own opinion expressed above and I’m really not sure what this outcome does to help the overall intent of these guidelines which I thought were designed to change behaviour. It also makes a mockery of Jaco Peyper’s on-field interpretation.


GRAND SLAM GROAN SLUMP

Can we not just have at least a couple of days to be happy about a double Grand Slam???????  I mean, is that too much to ask???

To be fair, I expected the taunts from outside of Ireland, like the “bet you still won’t get past the RWC quarterfinals”, so that isn’t included here.

But to see tweets from Irish fans, clearly still upset that so many from the 23 were from Leinster no matter what the achievements of the team, drudging up the age old debates about provincial selections and “private schools” and such was really really disheartening. 

I mean, let’s be clear, those debates are worth having, but no matter what the composition of the team at the weekend, it was still Ireland, and they won the tournament comfortably which makes the selection process extremely difficult to argue against.

Even on the subject of supposed favouritism towards Leinster, which I already harped on last week’s version of this column, there is news of change going forward with the proposed Munster Centre of Excellence, so maybe if it’s balance we’re looking for we could also bring it to the discussion from the other side as well.

One area where I didn’t mind a spot of post-Grand Slam negativity was with women’s rugby.  Things in general are improving for the Irish team and I wish Nichola and all the squad the best of luck in their Six Nations campaign which kicks off next weekend. 

But there are still a host of issues which have yet to be addressed and one of these is that members of the heroic 2013 Grand Slam squad were unbelievably without tickets for Saturday’s decider despite their being celebrated during the week.  Also there was an article in the Indo by John Cronin outline many of the outstanding problems (here’s the link though it’s unfortunately behind a paywall) so clearly it’s a case of some things done, more still to do.


WORLD RUGBY BLUEPRINTS


An exclusive this morning in the Telegraph about World Rugby’s plans for the future, also behind a paywall, but above you see the main points.  Here’s what I thought about it.


WINS AS A TIEBREAKER 

Many congrats again to Richie Murphy and his Under 20s or “Wolfuppies” team that also won the Grand Slam with their own convincing win over England at the weekend, the similarities in that game in Cork and Saturday’s in Dublin were uncanny.

But on the competition overall I’d just like to find a tiny kernel of fault if I may…as you can see from the table below, the Italian Under 20s did an amazing job in finishing 3rd on the overall table and I have no doubt that it will do the sport there a world of good and we can hope that these underage squads will go on to serve their test performances well in the years to come.

However, as much as we Irish fans would much prefer to see Italy above England in any league table, I wonder if it’s fair that they got ahead of them here. All I’m saying is that when we’re using bonus points, while I get why points difference is an important tie breaker, I’m not so sure it should be the first on the list behind matches won. Sorry, but IMO England’s 3 wins should beat Italy’s 2 and I reckon we’d be shouting from the rooftops if an Irish team missed out this way, especially in the senior Six Nations where the financial difference between 3rd and 4th is great.


WORLD CUP DRAW

Here’s a pair of tweets I agree with, despite the fact that they contradict each other.  In the first one, a Leicester Tigers podster shares my view that we might be making too much of this “World Cup draw” situation.  Is it a fiasco? Yes.  Is there anything we can do about it before RWC2023?  No.

That said, it was interesting to see this mock up of how the RWC2023 draw would look had the rankings been based on current standings, although I do wonder if the draw would allow for three from the six nations to be in the same pool.


INJURY REPORT

Biggest downers from Saturday for Ireland but more immediately Leinster were the early withdrawals of Messrs Keenan & Sexton, and the injury reports do not look good although neither were ever going to feature in the the top of the table URC clash on Friday against the reigning champion Stormers.

It was however extremely good news that Tommy O’Brien and Ed Byrne are back available for selection and while I have a feeling there won’t be too many changes to Leinster’s 23 than the one from Edinburgh, they could feature on the bench…

POSSIBLE 23 FOR FRIDAY

Cosgrove, Larmour, Turner, Frawley, Kearney, H Byrne, McGrath

Milne, McKee, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Jenkins, Ruddock > CAPTAIN, Penny, Deegan

Barron, E Byrne, Clarkson, Deeny, Connors, N McCarthy, Tector, T O’Brien/Russell

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Tommy O’Brien: has returned to full training after recovering from an ACL injury

Ed Byrne: has returned to full training after recovering from a knee injury

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Garry Ringrose: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols with Leinster Rugby

Hugo Keenan: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols with Leinster Rugby

Caelan Doris: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols with Leinster Rugby

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Johnny Sexton: will have a scan today on a groin injury picked up in Saturday’s game against England

Jamie Osborne: Sustained a knee ligament injury in the game against Edinburgh and will be unavailable for a number of weeks

There are no further updates on:

Rónan Kelleher (shoulder), Joe McCarthy (ankle), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Martin Moloney (knee) and Charlie Ngatai (hamstring)

Meanwhile on the Stormers side of things I hear they could well be bringing a few Springboks to the RDS so that should make it a very interesting occasion indeed.


MLR UPDATE

This week I decided to check in on the Eastern Conference for once and no better match than the rivalry between the New York Ironworkers and the New England Free Jacks.

The Irish interest in the lineups wasn’t as strong as I thought it would be all I could see was the New England scrum half John Poland who played for Ire U20s and had a cap for Munster before moving stateside – on the New York side there was just their Aussie-born outhalf Sam Windsor who has 8 Ulster caps from the 2015-16 season.

It was played at the Memorial Stadium at Mount Vernon in New York – I winced at the sight of both gridiron and soccer lines on the pitch but in the end it wasn’t too bad.

Overall although New York led a couple of times including as late as 55m, the visitors were always in control as their halfbacks Poland and Jayson Potroz always seemed to have a score in them and once they got back the lead going into the final quarter there was only to be one winner and they will be more than happy with a 5-0 points split away from home, especially as the teams went into the game level at the top of the conference.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 5

NOLA 37-14 UTAH

ATL 10-35 SD

OGDC 29-3 TOR

CHI 24-22 DAL

NYI 18-33 NEFJ



ROUND 6

OGDC v NOLA

NEFJ V DAL

UTAH V TOR

HOU V ATL

CHI V SEA


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

Obviously there has been no change in the league since the last time I included it in this column but I thought I’d post the table again anyway as there are just three rounds left and it’s getting close at the top, if not so much at the bottom!!!


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

The original plan was to have a bonus pod to look back over the Six Nations but I chose instead to give myself the week off; this has been an enjoyable period for content creating here at Harpin Manor of course but also very hectic admin wise so we could do with the few extra days without another pod to process. 

Then we turn our focus back to the URC and the visit of the Stormers with a preview show before, a wrap pod after and also all the other usual features in between so be sure to follow us on any or all of our social media platforms to keep up with it all.  In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP

80+ column : Law tinkering, contract signing & injury reports

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE


First things first…a reminder of the prestigious Harpin Guinness Pint Predictor League.

Our leader in the “Best Score In One Round” category is still Andrew Byrne’s 67 in round three – I have a funny feeling that the big Welsh victory in Rome did for most people last weekend which meant nobody got near it. The prize will be a signed copy of Brian Moylett’s “The Book On How You Become A Pro Rugby Player”.   Meanwhile in the overall league, Jack Fogarty’s lead has been cut to just three points so that too is all to play for.

REMEMBER YOU CAN STILL JOIN THE LEAGUE AND WIN PRIZES  we’re accepting entrants right up to the final round so you can still beat Andrew’s Round 3 score, also every Six Nations match gives you the chance to win a free pint so by all means download the app and enter the league using the code HARPIN and see how you get on.


WRAP OF A WRAP

Because of the Sunday afternoon kickoff in Murrayfield we shifted our wrap recording to Monday night and as you can see we had to go with just one guest but I reckon between myself and Rich we did an ok job for what was quite an eventful match.  I normally let the guests describe the actual tries so it was something of a novelty to do it myself although being a creature of habit I’ll be happy to get back to normal next week!

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


HARPIN ON…A SHOT OF WHISKEY

For the latest bonus clip we tried to walk the tightrope between acknowledging the importance of Jamison Gibson-Park to this Irish setup and not putting down Conor Murray’s considerable achievements over the years, including this one.  Did we succeed?  Check out for yourself.

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ANDY FARRELL TIK TOK 

The theme of our win in Murrayfield was “triumph over adversity” and in his summary Rich nailed that.  Although the Schmidt era achieved a lot, and I mean, A LOT, the two RWC failures left behind a checklist of demands from fans that included a more attacking outlook, stronger depth and an ability to overcome match day hurdles.  I think we can safely say he has ticked those boxes so far and long may it continue.

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NEW BALL GATE

We spoke about it on the pod but I have to say I’m still struggling with what can be done to fix it.  We want the quick throw to speed up the game, and I can totally appreciate the requirement to use the same ball that went out of play.

All of which means that while it sounds simple to say “well, the Scots took the throw so we should be entitled to play on if they fuck it up”, it’s absolutely not that simple.  The hooker and the officials should all be clued in to which ball is being used, but in this case, nobody picked it up in time.  That we went on to get the ball down over the line is circumstantial.

What I’m saying is that I don’t think the try should have been allowed because technically, once the ball left Turner’s hands, none of the action was real.  They were playing with a dead ball.  HOWEVER, if the Laws can put the onus on the thrower, he could be penalised for trying to gain advantage from a quick throw illegally and thus a free kick or lineout can be awarded to the opposition, which would have been decent compensation.  Those are my two cents.


DON’T FORGET THE WOLFPUPPIES!!!

We’ve gotten used to the Under 20s playing on Fridays for the past while, and YE GODS they’ve been putting on a show for us averaging over 50pts per match. But whatever happens in the Aviva on Saturday evening, whether we’re celebrating or not, be sure to keep 5pm free on the Sunday to watch them playing their English counterparts as there are similar prizes on the line for them.


IN FOR A PENNY, IN FOR A BIG MAC


Tuesday saw some big announcements from Leinster Rugby, first that the above two players had put pen to paper, and also that Andrew Smith was moving to Connacht.  To some that might look like a mixed bag of news but I see it as all positive.

Of course I’d love to see every possible player staying at Leinster, who wouldn’t when you look at the amazing talent coming out of our Academy.  But it’s all about the big picture and we have to accept that if this player didn’t make a move, it would have been another one because even with our massive player pool (I make it 55 we’ve used this season so far) there has to be a line drawn somewhere and I wish Andrew all the best out west.

I know it pains a lot of Irish rugby fans that Leinster is producing so much talent, especially when so much of it is not only ready for provincial level but also for test in many cases.   But I’m not sure what it supposed to be done about it?  If (when?) the Leinster Schools system churns out another rake of prospects this season should they be denied the opportunity to play their way to the senior blue and green jerseys just for the sake of balance?

The way I see it is that there are top level athletes emerging all over the island.  But there are also many different sports competing for those athletes, with the GAA and soccer top amongst them as well as rugby and say what you like about the societal rights and wrongs of the private school system (which I definitely could, just not on these pages) the fact remains that the gravitational pull for these particular kids when they come of age is still strongest towards rugby, especially in Leinster.

And to suggest that rugby hasn’t done anything to encourage more from around the country to take up the sport is absurd.  Of course there will always be more ways to try to compete with the other codes but the fact remains they are trying to get these players too and we’re going to lose some times.

Sorry I know this was meant to be about Scott & Joe signing but I got a bit sidetracked…I was reminded of the bru ha ha surrounding Penny’s call up a few weeks ago so I needed to vent a bit more on it!!!


UPDATE : Spotted this article after I posted the above so I’ll share it since it’s relevant > Munster announce plans for Centre of Excellence in Limerick · The42


REC FINALS DAY/BONUS POD

At the time of writing I have a chat scheduled with Francisco Issac who spoke to us earlier in the season about the Super Cup; now we’re having him back on to tell us about Rugby Europe’s other feature competition, the RE Championship which was formerly known as Six Nations B but now has gotten a revamp in both name and format with the finals day to come on Sunday so I look forward to hearing all about it.


INJURY REPORT

Obviously a long list from the weekend, although the reports from Monday were definitely more encouraging than expected.  It was no surprise to see Garry Ringrose and Iain Henderson ruled out for a while, yet to at least see names like Doris, Sheehan and Kelleher still in the overall training squad gave us hope.  Congrats to Ross Molony and Tom Stewart for their call-ups, both were well deserved.

Here’s a 23 we could see on Saturday, with the most confusion over the hooker position of course so I have put my candidates in order of preference.

Keenan, Hansen, Henshaw, Aki, Lowe, Sexton, Gibson-Park

Porter, (DS/RK/RH), Furlong, Baird, Ryan, O’Mahony, JVDF, (Doris/Conan)

(RK/RH/TS), Healy, O’Toole, Treadwell, (Conan/Prendergast), Murray, Byrne, O’Brien.

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)


UPDATE : Saw the above tweet after posting

AIL UPDATE

The Bateman Cup final took place at the weekend, which was impressive because as you can see by the above tweet, the hosts Terenure had to do a lot of rallying to get Lakelands Park ready after the snow during the week. 

In the end it was a comfortable enough victory for them as they ran out 71-13 winners over Buccaneers, which leads me to wonder if the competition could switch to a “proper” All Ireland knockout competition with all 50 AIL clubs joined by 14 qualifying junior clubs in an FA Cup style format with everyone going into the hat for each round, as opposed to the four provincial winners squaring off and trying to find a free weekend during the Six Nations. 

Maybe they could play it to a finish in the opening weeks of the season and do the provincial competitions in the spring when the wider rugby audience is distracted elsewhere?  This might generate a bit of a buzz on the club game in the early parts of the season.  Just a thought.

Anyway the AIL has another weekend off so we’ll have a closer look in the next 80+ column, where I also plan to feature the race at the top of Div 1B.

Men’s AIL


ROUND 16

MAR 25 (all 2:30pm)

Clontarf v Ballynahinch

Cork Con v Shannon

Dublin Univ v Lansdowne

Terenure v Garryowen

Young Munster v UCD


SEVENS UPDATE

For reasons I have yet to find on the internet, the 2022/23 World Series Sevens circuit is making two visits to Hong Kong, at least for the men.  

But anyway while the next round doesn’t take place until the end of March, the draws have been made for the pools so I can update you on that for now…

The Irish men, who nudged up one place to 9th after a final four appearance in Vancouver, got themselves a stinker of a pool draw with New Zealand, South Africa and Kenya all finding their way into the deathiest of pools of death with us.

Meanwhile the women, still fifth despite a poor outing in Canada by their standards, don’t have it too much easier with Fiji, Australia and Brazil on the horizon. 


MLR UPDATE

My choice of MLR action to watch via the free Rugby Network platform was easy this week, with the only two undefeated sides Seattle and Houston meeting at the Starfire Stadium.  

Just to clarify I’ll be following this competition for this column over the coming months not just to comment on the rugby itself, but also on the overall presentation to the US public in the hope that they’re doing all they can to introduce them to the joys of egg-chasing as best as they can.

But to go to the action on the pitch first, this was a very scrappy 80 minutes with Houston’s attempts to win the battle up front thanks to their towering South African number 8 Gideon van Wyk thwarted by poor lineouts & discipline, plus the home side’s own big no8 Ricky Hattingh plus a pacy back three especially full back Duncan Matthews.  In the end although the teams got two tries each it was a series of penalties from Seattle 10 AJ Alatimu that kept them in front for the most part as they ran out 24-12 winners to stay 100%.

Now to the presentation…first the venue – the good news is that there seemed to be a decent crowd – the Seattle Major League Soccer team averages over 30k but it makes sense to aim low so this is a ground shared with some amateur level soccer teams and it was nice to see a full stand even if it was just on one side of the 4k-capacity ground.  Bad news is the clearly visible soccer markings, I know this can’t be helped and at least it’s not the “gridiron” lines which can really get in the way of the action, but it’s still worth mentioning.

I’d also like to mention the water- or “hydration-break” as they call it.  A lot of fans this side of the pond seem to view it as hell on earth but tbh it doesn’t bother me as much and for the MLR in particular, it provides a decent quarter break that US fans will be well used to and it also allows broadcasters to take in a few ad bucks.

And speaking of ads, I know as viewers we tend to want less of them I reckon for a league like this it has to be good to see so many companies willing to hitch their wagon to the rugby product so again I don’t mind it as much when watching, especially when I remember that I’m not being charged for the privilege neither in replay nor live.

Finally on the officiating, while there were several TMO stoppages I still got the sense that the overall plan was to let the play flow as much as possible.  And that’s definitely a good thing for the most part, even if the skill levels for this comp might not be good enough for too many worldie free-flowing tries just yet.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 4

NEFJ 34-31 OGDC

CHI 26-27 TOR

SD 22-0 DAL

SEA 24-12 HOU

NOLA 31-5 RNYI



ROUND 5

NOLA V UTAH

ATL V SD

OGDC V TOR

CHI V DAL

NYI V NEFJ


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Like I said further up the page, we have a midweek bonus pod about the REC Grand final which should post on Thursday, then, of course, we will turn our attention fully to the big match in the Aviva with a preview show before, a wrap pod after and also all the other usual features in between so be sure to follow us on any or all of our social media platforms to keep up with it all.  In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Over-reacting to over-reacting

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE


First things first…a reminder of the prestigious Harpin Guinness Pint Predictor League.

Our leader in the “Best Score In One Round” category is Andrew Byrne’s 67, including a spot on prediction of Ireland’s 14-point win over Italy.  The prize will be a signed copy of Brian Moylett’s “The Book On How You Become A Pro Rugby Player”.  Jack Fogarty still leads the overall table with seven points to spare. 

REMEMBER YOU CAN STILL JOIN THE LEAGUE AND WIN PRIZES  we’re accepting entrants right up to the final round so you can still beat Andrew’s Round 3 score, also every Six Nations match gives you the chance to win a free pint so by all means download the app and enter the league using the code HARPIN and see how you get on.


WRAP OF A WRAP

Mark & Ciarán did their usual excellent job helping me wrap our latest feature match, I on the other hand had issues with my audio – when I heard it back it sounded like I was talking while being locked in a box.  Thankfully it didn’t take long to re-record my parts and the result turned out ok if I do say so myself.

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


HARPIN ON…DAVE KEARNEY

We’ve been mostly using these YouTube bonus clips as an opportunity to turn the spotlight on certain players who don’t always get the recognition and if anyone in the current Leinster squad deserves this it has to be Dave Kearney.  Thankfully his excellent finish in Edinburgh provided the platform for a decent bit of appreciation from our panel.

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LIAM TURNER TIK TOK 

Unlike the YouTube clips, I never go into our pod recordings knowing what I’m going to you for the brief TikTok promos, it’s one of those things where I’ll know where I hear it and sure enough once Mark said this about Liam Turner definitely knew it.

It might sound like feint praise to say of a player “he’s a definite candidate for our 23 jersey in Europe” but when you’re talking about a squad with the depth of Leinster’s back three talent, that’s some statement yet one I’m more than happy to make about Turner he has had an outstanding season.

On a more personal note we’re proud here at Harpin Manor to have passed 400 followers on TikTok we’re not exactly pushing it as our top platform, simply posting regular clips so we’re happy that the numbers continue to rise and will no doubt do something special if and when we reach 500.

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ARDIE AS NAILS – PART 1 (THE INCIDENT)

Ardie made a slit throat gesture to an opponent as he was leaving the field.

He publicly apologised at the earliest opportunity.

He has been cited.

That’s the above water part to this iceberg of a story.  If you hold your nose and plunge into the depths though there was a whole lot more. 


ARDIE AS NAILS – PART 2 (OVER-REACTION-FEST)

My initial thoughts were that if you made it publicly known that you were going to kill/injure someone out in the “real world” you wouldn’t or at least shouldn’t get away with it.  So once my mind went to a place where I wanted to suggest on twitter that I thought this wasn’t cool, you can see where I landed.

I guess I assumed that by using the words “straying towards” I would be making it obvious that no, I do not actually think that there should be criminal charges brought against the Hurricanes & All Black number 8.

Enter the “Game’s Gone Soft” crowd.  Or the “Woke Hunters” or whatever you want to call them.  You see, my “mistake” was that the words “criminal charges” became a beacon for those rage scrolling the second the incident appeared as a clip on social media because, of course, they were actively searching for a poster child.  I provided it for them.  Do I regret it?

You know what – ten, maybe even five years ago, I definitely would have.  I may even have gone so far as to remove the tweet.  

But now, fuck it.  I know what I meant.  And if I’m tailoring my opinions based on how I think a certain corner of the opinion spectrum (especially this one) is going to respond well then I may as not bother.  And since I’m a firm believer in sharing opinions, that only leaves one conclusion – leave it there, maybe add a tweet or two to explain what I meant (I even acknowledged that I probably did a bad job wording it but I still couldn’t change my view), and then let the backlash wash over me.

To summarise, we had people over-reacting to my over-reaction to Ardie’s initial over-reaction.   Or to put it another way, an average day in the bird house.

I know there are those who will take this as “proof” that “Twitter is a cess pit” but even after last Friday I still disagree.  If we defined every pursuit by it’s bad actors then the world itself would be a cess pit.  


TRAIL FOUND?

I always make it clear when I’m about to harp on Welsh rugby that I am very aware that I’m far outside the “bubble” and thus am unsure of the minute details and dramas going on between the regions, cities, clubs and personalities across the nation.

But being a URC/Six Nations fan I do claim to have a tangential interest and from where I’m sitting it looks as though they have reached a point where they are going to have to rely on outside investment to get out of this cavernous hole they find themselves in.

And once you have to put your eggs in that corporate basket, you have to accept that there are going to be some options available which will make “unthinkable” actions very thinkable.  Like merging one of the regions with a club that keeps on doing well in the RFU’s second tier while being denied entry into its first.

Does that mean it will definitely happen?  Of course not.  But my point is that if it does become possible they should definitely consider it, while if it doesn’t they need to get ready for another offer which may sound equally ludicrous at first.

Once rugby union went pro, the sport was always going to have to think outside the box, and to be fair, while it’s still far from perfect it’s still a better box for the most part IMO.


INJURY REPORT

Leinster tend not to issue a full report until the Monday before their next match so that would be March 20th.  But going from the Irish squad update it looks like Ciaran Frawley has been called up to camp while Scott Penny and Jamie Osborne have been held back for minor knocks so hopefully they are indeed minor.  Meanwhile we’re wondering whether or not the likes of Furlong, Gibson-Park, Sexton and Henshaw will be involved at Murrayfield next weekend.  


AIL UPDATE

It’s “as you were” at the top of Division 1A as both Tarf and Nure secured BP wins away to Shannon and UCD respectively.  Familiar names to Leinster fans among the tries include Ben Murphy and Jordan Coghlan. 

Meanwhile in the race for the top 4 it’s looking like we could have two Leinster v Munster semifinals as both Cork Con and Young Munster also won away from home although Ballynahinch’s win over freefalling Trinity (the only home win of the five) keeps them in contention.

Down at the bottom it’s looking like a three-way fight to void joining Garryowen with Lansdowne, UCD and Shannon all having tricky away assignments in round 16 on March 25.

Men’s AIL

ROUND 15

Ballynahinch 36-15 Dublin Univ

Garryowen 21-29 Cork Con

Lansdowne 10-15 Young Munster

Shannon 3-33 Clontarf

UCD 10-32 Terenure



ROUND 16

MAR 25 (all 2:30pm)

Clontarf v Ballynahinch

Cork Con v Shannon

Dublin Univ v Lansdowne

Terenure v Garryowen

Young Munster v UCD


SEVENS – VANCOUVER WRAP

Mixed fortune for the Irish squads in Canada – both started brightly with wins over the host nation and South American opposition but then they went their separate ways.  The women went on to lost all their remaining matches and although they remain a respectable 5th in the standings, a gap has appeared above them and they will be anxiously looking over their shoulders for the remaining rounds.

Although the men couldn’t avenge the Aussies in their final pool match, they still made the quarterfinals where a Zac Ward try deep in extra time got them past the USA and into the final four where they may have fallen to Argentina and again Australia but still the points were valuable and put us back into the top 8.

The circuit now moves on to Hong Kong at the end of March.


MAJOR LEAGUE RUGBY

My goal is to watch at least one MLR fixture each week, starting with Houston v San Diego from round 3 they’re all available for free on TheRugbyNetwork.com.

To be clear I won’t be following this competition merely to comment on the rugby.  My main interest is in watching how the sport is growing in the USA.  I reckon they have a decent model in the MLR to bring it forward but the league hasn’t been without its challenges especially last season when they lost the two Adam Gilchrist-owned teams (though considering the dumb nicknames they had they probably won’t be missed too much in the long run).

So with this in mind I checked out the replay of the Houston Sabercats v San Diego Legion, probably the biggest clash of Round 3 as both are expected to make the playoffs.  The familiar names were mostly on the San Diego side which features skipper Blair Cowen, Ma’a Nonu and Mikey Te’o.

The US presentation of the match was pretty much as expected, with a two-man team for commentary with the analyst seeing his role not only to provide “colour” but also to explain some of the more complicated rules, which is a good thing in my book.

One good feature of this match is that it was played on a pitch that wasn’t besmirched by lines from American football, something we do still see in quite a few MLR matches.

It seemed a decent crowd at Sabercats Stadium but it was the visitors who jumped out to an early 14-0 lead with Nonu heavily involved in both tries in the first 10 minutes.  Needless to say the defences won’t be up to the standards we’re used to in European rugby but still the general attacking play is to be admired at times.

Houston did manage to claw them back including an intercept try from winger Labuschagne which nudged them in front but a quick pair of San Diego tries created 26-17 advantage going into the last ten minutes.  This should have been enough to secure the win but a pair of yellow cards in succession to Sears-Juru & Poidevin gave the home side an opening and they sailed through it with two late converted tries including the winner from their big number 8 Gideon van Wyk to win the day.

Again, if you’re a rugby purist, don’t bother watching these matches.  But if you appreciate how the sport can benefit from the game growing, plus that it will take time for a league to establish rivalries and traditions of its own, then you can certainly enjoy keeping an eye on how things are going.

ROUND 3

DAL 10-35 SEA

ATL 29-16 NOLA

CHI 10-14 UTAH

RNYI 34-8 OGDC

HOU 31-26 SD



ROUND 4

NEFJ V OGDC

CHI V TOR

SD V DAL

SEA V HOU

NOLA V RNYI


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

I checked back in the records and after being in 1st place after the first couple of URC rounds I had dropped to 3rd by round 7, a whopping 9.5 points behind our resident stats expert RugbyKino, but as you can see I have clawed eight of those points back so I’ll be gunning to retrieve that top spot by the end.

This league is meant to be a race to avoid the bottom spot which rewards you by having to wear The Jersey Of Shame in a social media phot but it would appear Neil “No Picks Keego” Keegan wants that honour for himself so he’s welcome to it!!!


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

The Six Nations is back on the menu and for a bonus pod during the week I will be the Leinster representative on an all-provincial panel giving an overview of the 2023 Six Nations as it stands.  Then we turn to our focus to Sunday’s “Triple Crown decider” in Murrayfield with a preview show before, a wrap pod after and also all the other usual features in between so be sure to follow us on any or all of our social media platforms to keep up with it all.  In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Anthems, Contracts, Updates

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE


First things first…the all important update in the prestigious Guinness Pint Predictor League.

We have a new leader in the “Best Score In One Round” category as Andrew Byrne’s 67, including a spot on prediction of Ireland’s 14-point win over Italy, put him in pole position.  The prize will be a signed copy of Brian Moylett’s “The Book On How You Become A Pro Rugby Player”.

As you can see despite being knocked off his perch Jack Fogarty still leads the overall table with seven points to spare. 

REMEMBER YOU CAN STILL JOIN THE LEAGUE AND WIN PRIZES we’re accepting entrants right up to the final round so you can still beat Andrew’s Round 3 score, also every Six Nations match gives you the chance to win a free pint so by all means download the app and enter the league using the code HARPIN and see how you get on.


WRAP OF A WRAP

Apart from a big mishap on my part where I got the seniors and U20s mixed up in my selection of Front Five articles, Sunday night’s recordings went well and Tom and Conor did their usual sterling work in describing the action. 

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


HARPIN ON…12 & 13 OPTIONS

For the bonus chat this week we looked at Ireland’s options as centre and looking back at it now we even missed some names like James Hume and Luke Marshall who have both of course done well when called upon. Still I think it’s important to acknowledge that when everyone is fit there is only one pairing for Ireland that ticks all boxes both with and without the ball and while we try to repress the bias when talking about Ireland, I wonder in this case if it’s actually better for Leinster fans to make that point. 

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HARPIN’ ON…CLOCK GONE RED

Here’s a bonus bonus clip if you will. After Tom described Italy’s interception try at the end of the first half I asked him about Ireland’s mindset in not killing the half after winning the lineout after the clock went red given the BP was in the bag. 


TOM O’TOOLE TIK TOK

Halfway through this you’ll see me writing something down, for the record it’s a note to myself reminding me to use Tom’s mention of O’Toole’s display for this week’s TikTok clip. As you can see I remembered! 

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IRELAND’S TIME-DELAYED CALL

There has been a lot of light hearted indignation on social media about the Italian rendition of Ireland’s Call before the match, and to be honest while I wanted to join in, the fact that the issue was easily sidetracked into that annoying “debate” over whether or not that should be played at all for Irish rugby made me pause.   But this column is a much safer space for me to express my thoughts without all that nonsense. 

It should be a simple matter – each union should be able to decide on how their anthem is played.  Full stop.  I’m not even sure why it’s up for debate.  Even giving the Italian organisers the benefit of the doubt in that this wasn’t a case of intentional head-wrecking, they still shouldn’t be put in a position where an error can be made.

The anthem playing is a “formality” in every sense of the word.  First, it’s a reminder to the player of the extra prestige of playing test level rugby for their native or adopted country (another rabbit hole I’d want to avoid in this discussion) but more relevant is the way we’re not supposed to have the rendition of the anthem as a major talking point especially in something like the Six Nations!!!

You’d hope that regulations wouldn’t be needed for this, but that fiasco would seem to warrant them. 


LEO SIGNS

A friend texted me on Monday “Just drove past the Leinster HQ in UCD.. lots of press outside” and within an hour I had learned exactly why.  This had been rumoured for a while but the confirmation was obviously very welcome news.  With Stu leaving for Racing at the end of the campaign, this provides much needed continuity and I very much doubt there’s a single Leinster fan unhappy about it.

On Stu’s replacement, we’re hearing talk about Leon MacDonald, currently in charge of the Blues in Super Rugby and formally involved with Tasman, the Crusaders and the All Blacks so not a bad resumé at all, plus he has worked with Andrew Goodman.  But before I get deep into details like how he takes his coffee, I should point out that nothing is confirmed as yet although apparently this will be sorted over the coming weeks.

Last thing I’d say on it is that a senior coaching position at Leinster Rugby isn’t exactly a tough one to sell to the best coaches. 


RDS REDEVELOPMENT

“The funds are there. It’s just a case of going through the boring bit around plans and tenders, dates and project plans. All that boring stuff. That’s all happening now. It’s all systems go. I think we should have something really exciting in the next couple of months to show.”

Obviously COVID knocked back the planned redevelopment of the RDS a good bit so it’s good to see it’s still on track and every update on its progress is welcome.  I love going there but still this work is very badly needed.


SCHOOLS FINAL FOUR

After a replayed first round tie set things back a bit, we now finally know the semifinalists in this season’s Leinster Schools Senior Cup : St Michael’s College v Blackrock College, Newbridge College v Gonzaga College.

Both should be quality matches but the first one puts me in mind of the final from ten years ago which featured players like Garry Ringrose, Jeremy Loughman, Oliver Jager, Nick Timoney, Cian Kelleher, Ross Byrne, Nick McCarthy, Ross Molony, James Ryan, Josh Murphy & Max Deegan.  It was also the day I took this photo which got some decent reception about t’internet and (eventually!) inspired me to start the Harpin Instagram account.  

Very much looking forward to both semifinals next Monday & Tuesday.


INJURY REPORT

IRELAND

Biggest news is unfortunately Finlay Bealham’s injury and although his Championship is over his contribution to this campaign cannot be overstated.   

Even without the Leinster goggles it has to be good news that Messrs Sexton, Henshaw, Furlong, Gibson Park & Ringrose are all included in the “mini-camp” in the hope that all will be available to face Scotland and England.

On the players sent back to their provinces, well I don’t want to repeat myself from last week on the consternation from certain fans over supposed bias in these decisions, I’ll just say that with a full round of URC matches at a crucial portion of the campaign, I’d say the provinces will take all the personnel they can get.

LEINSTER

The news on Joe McCarthy was unfortunate but not surprising, hopefully he’ll be able to play some part at the business end of the season.

Speaking of which, nine points from Leinster’s final four matches will mathematically clinch 1st place, though with standards at the province as they are I doubt that’s a factor in team selection this coming weekend.  Word is they were considering our matches against Cardiff, Dragons, Edinburgh & Stormers as a block which would mostly see the same combinations so we can expect a similar lineup this coming weekend.

15 COSGRAVE 14 LARMOUR 13 TURNER 12 OSBORNE 11 KEARNEY 10 H BYRNE 9 MCGRATH

1 MILNE 2 MCKEE 3 ALA’ALATOA 4 MOLONY 5 JENKINS 6 RUDDOCK (C) 7 PENNY 8 DEEGAN

16 MCELROY 17 BOYLE 18 CLARKSON 19 CONNORS 20 DEENY 21 N MCCARTHY 22 TECTOR 23 RUSSELL

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)


INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Jason Jenkins: came through the game against Dragons Rugby with no issues following his return from injury

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Ciarán Frawley: will look to increase his training load this week as he continues his recovery from a knee injury

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Joe McCarthy: has had a procedure on an ankle injury and will be out of action for two months

There are no further updates on:

Charlie Ngatai (hamstring), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Ed Byrne (knee), Martin Moloney (knee) and Tommy O’Brien (knee)


AIL UPDATE

First of all congrats to the Combined Provinces XV for their clean sweep of wins in the inaugural Celtic Challenge, no doubt they gave the test coaching set up plenty to think about over the four matches, and the squad for the upcoming Six Nations was announced on Tuesday, albeit over the backdrop of the tragic news of the passing of Tom Tierney.

Back to the Men’s AIL, Jack Boyle, Alex Soroka & Ben Murphy were among the Leinster players bagging tries in another important round of 1A matches.  Tarf stayed on top with a good win at Trinity while Terenure stayed close to them by overcoming Lansdowne.  

Meanwhile down at the bottom Garryowen finally slipped through the trap door although the race to avoid joining them is really hotting up and for the remainder of the campaign I can’t see there being too many dead rubbers.

Men’s AIL

ROUND 14

Cork Con 29-34 UCD

Dublin Univ 21-38 Clontarf

Garryowen 16-26 Shannon

Terenure 43-24 Lansdowne

Young Munster 21-0 Ballynahinch



ROUND 15

MAR 4 (all 2:30pm)

Ballynahinch v Dublin Univ

Garryowen v Cork Con

Lansdowne v Young Munster

Shannon v Clontarf

UCD v Terenure


SEVENS – FROM LA TO VANCOUVER

Just the men’s World Series resumed last weekend and to say Ireland’s fortunes varied over the two days would be an understatement.  On Day One which was marred by torrential rain and several delays we won all our pool matches, including a win over the Blitzboks, to set up a quarterfinal against Australia, yet on the Sunday we just couldn’t stop shipping penalties and slipped to two defeats which meant we also slipped further down the series table to 9th after 6 of 11 rounds.

The circuit now moves to Vancouver, Canada where we get a chance for revenge over the Aussies in our pool and we also face Chile and our hosts.

Meanwhile the women return to action as well and with just three rounds to go we’ll be looking for another final four appearance to get us higher than our current fifth position.  


VANCOUVER 7S

IRELAND’S FIXTURES

FRI MAR 3

6:43PM WOMEN V CANADA

9:45PM MEN V CANADA

SAT MAR 4

12:58AM WOMEN V BRAZIL 

4:35AM MEN V CHILE

7:50PM WOMEN V USA

10:57PM MEN V AUSTRALIA

11:28PM WOMEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN

MON MAR 5

1:54AM MEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN


MAJOR LEAGUE RUGBY

Getting pressed for time as I type so I’ll just leave the results, table & fixtures in this section.  Hopefully I’ll have time to catch a game or two soon, they’re all available for free on TheRugbyNetwork.com.

ROUND 2

SEA 28-22 ATL

UTAH 33-25 DAL

HOU 35-14 NOLA

RNYI 39-3 TOR

SD 29-12 NEFJ



ROUND 3

DAL V SEA

ATL V NOLA

CHI V UTAH

RNYI V OGDC

HOU V SD


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

Kudos to Cian “RugbyKino” O’Muilleoir for reminding us all of the extra URC matches last weekend, I chose to reward him by being the only one to take a punt on Ulster winning in Durban, thus allowing me to narrow his lead down to just two and a half points!!!  We both got the Lions/Glasgow game wrong though, which has us both anxiously looking over our shoulders at Mark Jackson in 3rd so there are a few interesting weeks of Superbruing ahead for us.  Oh, and we’d also like to announce Keego’s new full official nickname of Neil “No Picks Keego” Keegan…


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Obviously we’ll be turning our attention to Leinster’s trip to Edinburgh next weekend and we’ll have an Opposition View pod during the week talking to Sandy Smith although it would be rude not to also ask him about the Scots whom Ireland play in the same city a week later.

Then we return to our URC focus with a preview show before, a wrap pod after and also all the other usual features in between so be sure to follow us on any or all of our social media platforms to keep up with it all.  In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Penny pushing, WRU SNAFU & MLR crowds

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE

First things first…the all important update in the prestigious Guinness Pint Predictor League.

After a week off the Six Nations returns so be sure to get your predictions done in time, seems like a pointless reminder but I’ve forgotten how many times I’ve forgotten over the years.

REMEMBER YOU CAN STILL JOIN THE LEAGUE AND WIN PRIZES we’re accepting entrants right up to the final round and you can still beat Jack Fogarty’s Round 2 score of 58 and also every Six Nations match gives you the chance to win a free pint so by all means download the app and enter the league using the code HARPIN and see how you get on.

The prize for the Best Score In One Round category is a signed copy of Brian Moylett’s “The Book On How You Become A Pro Rugby Player” [he was a guest on our bonus pod last week] so like I say there’s still plenty of time to throw your hat in the ring.


WRAP OF A WRAP

Some might say Leinster’s BP win over the Dragons last Saturday evening at the RDS was “run of the mill” but here at Harpin Manor we always find plenty to keep us going for a wrap pod and Tom “@LeinsterRoyalty” Coleman & Ciarán “@PostToPostSport” Duffy were on hand to get ‘er done.

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HE SAID IT AGAIN!!!

Last week I brought back a strict rule on these pages, namely that in a year when Ireland wins the first two matches in the Six Nations, that two-word phrase which rhymes with “canned ham” is considered taboo on all Harpin platforms unless stated otherwise – Tom let one slip on the pod Sunday evening and was so amused by the look on my face that he kept doing it, with of course Ciarán joining in with a few of his own!  Thankfully I had editing privileges on my side which is why you hear a few buzzer sounds on the pod.


HARPIN’ ON…RHYS RUDDOCK

For this week’s bonus clip we looked at the career of Rhys Ruddock and his invaluable contributions to Leinster & Ireland rugby going back to 2009, or to put it another way, since Harpin On Rugby first came into being.

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HARRY BYRNE TIK TOK

In the pod I asked Tom for his take on Harry Byrne’s chance to shine with Leinster during this block of the season and as always he came up trumps.

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PETER O’MAHONY SIGNS

Ireland Rugby Squad Training, IRFU High Performance Centre, Sport Ireland Campus, Blanchardstown, Dublin 21/2/2023Peter OMahonyMandatory Credit ©INPHO/Dan Sheridan

I’ve said it many a time on these pages but I’ve no problem saying it again, Peter O’Mahony is an absolutely crucial presence in the Irish rugby squad, on the pitch in play, on the pitch out of play, and in the dressing room.  Which means I’m delighted to see him sign an extension to his contract.


PENNY PUSHING

So with tongue firmly in cheek I posted the above tweet on Sunday.  Nothing in particular provoked it at the time it was just a general observation.  But on Monday we went from the general to the particular, with the announcement of Scott Penny’s addition to the Irish training camp causing a predictable response from the online provincial factions, mostly from Munster fans speaking up for John Hodnett, but also from Ulster fans who suggest Nick Timoney is more worthy of the call up.

Ireland Rugby Squad Training, IRFU High Performance Centre, Sport Ireland Campus, Blanchardstown, Dublin 21/2/2023Scott Penny Mandatory Credit ©INPHO/Ben Brady

This time, to be fair to the objectors, the bulk of them have gone out of their way to point out that they do consider Scott to be a quality player, which was nice of them.  But they then go on to paint this selection on the canvass of the “The IRFU is biased towards Leinster” narrative and this is what took most of the oxygen amongst the Irish rugby twitterati throughout Monday, so much so that Balls.ie were able to harvest a ton of clicks from it with an article entitled “Munster Fans Have Had A Lot To Say About Scott Penny’s Ireland Call-Up” (you’ll forgive me if I don’t include a link).

Apparently the mic-drop defence of the bias accusations is the fact that Scott Penny has only played 10 minutes of European rugby in his career to date.  This is true, and it is also a valid point.  But is it the only one?  Of course not, and I dare say a lot of the social media pot stirrers know this full well.

For one thing, while Heineken Cup is supposed to be a means of getting close to test standard, I’m not sure this applies as much now as it would have done five or more years ago.  As many of the same Penny doubters would have pointed out at the time, Leinster’s four European pool matches were “far too easy”.

But more importantly, I don’t see anyone talking about the Emerging Ireland tour from last October, where the Irish test coaching setup travelled with both Penny and Hodnett training day in day out and sharing the 7 role in our three matches.

And I also don’t see many people exploring the possibility that Penny being further down Leinster’s pecking order might be the feature rather than the bug.  

Call this “trolling” if you want, but the remaining rounds of the URC have match points up for grabs that are much more valuable to Ulster (who also have an extra match next weekend btw), Munster & Connacht so maybe, just maybe, having Penny hold the tackle bags rather than Messrs Timoney & Hodnett might actually make sense in this case.

But no, let’s just go with a single-issue framing that stokes the provincial feuding, I guess that’s better for clicks and impressions.

Like I always say – I’m ready for a rational discussion about the possibility of lopsided treatment of the provinces from the likes of Mr Nucifora, once it actually IS a rational discussion which looks at the full picture. 


WRU SNAFU

Can’t add much more to my sentiments in the above tweet, only to give a shout out to our friends at the Welsh Regional Rugby Appreciation Podcast who had a very rational and informative pod recently outlining in a level headed way the ins and outs of the current crisis.  They even referenced The West Wing which got extra points from me.  [also as I post I see they’ve just published another pod featuring an interview with Squidge]


INJURY REPORT

I already addressed the row over one addition to the Irish squad, but there were of course other announcements, like the call up of Joey Carbery which means it’s very possible we won’t see Sexton playing in Rome (on the IRFU page their training session includes two pics of Ross Byrne if that tells us anything, probably not).

Also it’s good to know Dan Sheehan & Cian Healy are back in the group and also the much less controversial additions are Caolin Blade, Gavin Coombes, Jordan Larmour, Jimmy O’Brien, Jamie Osborne, Cian Prendergast, Roman Salanoa, Jacob Stockdale and Kieran Treadwell.  Very happy to see all those names involved with of course in each case there are at least one or two others who just missed out.


AIL UPDATE

First a word on the Women’s Celtic Challenge, congrats to the Irish representatives Combined Provinces who made it three wins from three with a 19-0 whitewash of their Welsh counterparts at the Kingspan last weekend, and best of luck to them aiming for a perfect campaign when they travel to Scotland to play the Thistles.

Now to the Men’s AIL and there were some fascinating results in Div1A as Terenure were knocked off their perch at the top following a narrow 8-10 defeat to Ballynahinch who had Marcus Rea and Jake Flannery in their ranks.  Taking over at the top are Clontarf, who didn’t have things their own way either but with Mick Kearney and Alex Soroka in their pack they stayed ahead of Young Munster at Castle Avenue.

Down at the bottom UCD badly needed all five points against surely-doomed Garryowen and Ben Brownlee was amongst the tries in their 52-12 victory.

Pick of the matches in Round 14 would seem to be Cookies v Hinch as the race for the top four now seems wide open.

Men’s AIL

ROUND 13

Ballynahinch 10-8 Terenure

Clontarf 27-24 Young Munster

Lansdowne 25-19 Cork Con

Shannon 43-17 Dublin University

UCD 52-12 Garryowen



ROUND 14

Feb 25 (all 2:30pm)

Cork Con v UCD

Dublin Univ v Clontarf

Garryowen v Shannon

Terenure v Lansdowne

Young Munster v Ballynahinch


SEVENS ARE BACK

Even with the Six Nations and a bit of URC action to look forward to at the weekend, I’m always here for some World Series Sevens action as well, although whatever the reason may be for only the men taking part in the LA leg, it’s still a shame.

The Irish men will really need to push for a top four finish here if they are to move up the rankings and while they find themselves with the Blitboks in their pool, with good performances against Uruguay and Canada they can cement their place in the knockouts by then.  Best of luck to them.


LA SEVENS

SAT FEB 25

7:27PM – IRELAND V URUGUAY

10:40PM – IRELAND V CANADA

3:03AM (SUNDAY) – IRELAND V SOUTH AFRICA

SUN FEB 26

4:55PM – PLAYOFFS BEGIN


MAJOR LEAGUE RUGBY

I’m already keeping track of the AIL and Sevens in this column but since I am hopeful of pro rugby taking off in my nation of birth I guess I should probably show more of an interest in the MLR which kicked off last weekend.

Of course with last season’s shenanigans with the two Gilchrist owned teams having to withdraw making a mockery of the playoffs didn’t help, but there was definitely some positive news to kick off the 2023 season with a league record 11,423 tickets sold for the San Diego Legion v Utah Warriors match at Snapdragon Stadium in southern California.  I can think of a few URC grounds, maybe even Premiership ones two, that wouldn’t mind that kind of attendance.

I’ll be posting the results, table and next fixtures here throughout the season and will do my best to catch a game or two as they’re all available for free on TheRugbyNetwork.com.

ROUND 1

ATL 17-10 TOR

NOLA 12-36 NEFJ

OGDC 42-27 CHI

SD 33-17 UTAH

SEA 25-11 RNYI

DAL 12-33 HOU



ROUND 2

SEA V ATL

UTAH V DAL

HOU V NOLA

RNYI V TOR

SD V NEFJ


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

It’s back to the Six Nations we turn and first in a bonus midweek pod I have an all-province panel to go over the two rounds so far with me, I wonder if the Scott Penny thing will come up???? 

Then of course we will turn our attention to Ireland’s match in Rome on Saturday which will be getting the usual Harpin treatment with a preview Friday featuring Keego, a wrap on Sunday plus a whole lot of other features in between.

In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Competition update, troll’s tropes, taboo phrase

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

FANZO GUINNESS PINT PREDICTOR LEAGUE


First things first…the all important update in the prestigious Guinness Pint Predictor League.

As you can see an amazing round by Jack Fogarty including a perfect prediction of IREvFRA catapulted him into first place in both categories; ‘Overall score’ as you see in the graphic, and also ‘best one round score’.

REMEMBER YOU CAN STILL JOIN THE LEAGUE AND WIN PRIZES we’re accepting entrants right up to the final round and you can still beat Jack’s Round 2 score of 58 and also every Six Nations match gives you the chance to win a free pint so by all means download the app and enter the league using the code HARPIN and see how you get on.

And we can announce an extra prize for the Best Score In One Round category – a signed copy of Brian Moylett’s “The Book On How You Become A Pro Rugby Player” [he’ll be a guest on our bonus pod this week] so like I say there’s still plenty of time to throw your hat in the ring.


WRAP OF A WRAP

That was a real Six Nations classic at the Aviva on Saturday, and we thought it might take myself, Mark & Conor about six hours to record the wrap.  In the end it was more like an hour and a half so a lot had to end up on the cutting room floor although as you can see below I managed to salvage a couple of bonus YouTube clips.

If you missed it, check it out here or on most major platforms.


ATONIO ATONIN’

Thankfully, Wayne Barnes’ decision that “I’m not starting at a high degree of danger” didn’t affect the result too much in the end, and pretty much everyone who saw the match was expecting news of Atonio’s citing on Monday, we’ll see how the hearing goes.

Unfortunately, the non-call brought two of my most hated tropes to the fore on the social media, the “go overboard slagging off the ref” and the one I pointed out here.


HARPIN’ ON…THE KICKING GAME

I got given out to on our YouTube channel for apparently copying a theme recently highlighted by Squidge, well as much I love his work I have to point out that I did not see that video and even if I had, I still wanted to let Mark, an actual head coach at Nat 2 level in the English system, a chance to harp on the topic in his own words.

If you’re playing the clip above maybe pop over and subscribe to the channel too?  That’s where we post our Preview Show as well as other content throughout the week.


HARPIN’ ON…THE WORCESTER MESS

Mark also gave some decent background on the omnishambles at Worcester so I included the extra chat in a “bonus bonus clip”.


DORIS PASS TIK TOK

Couldn’t let Mark get all the social media airtime so Conor’s depiction of “That Doris pass” made for a perfect TikTok promo and seems to be getting decent engagement so far…


THAT DUPONT TACKLE

I might get into trouble here as it’s going to look like I’m slagging off two world class players, but I can’t help wondering if we’re going a tad overboard gushing over Antoine Dupont’s holding up Mack Hansen around the try line at the Aviva?

Don’t get me wrong, it did show great strength but I don’t see anyone pointing out that Hansen had zero momentum when AD grabbed him plus, while the Connacht star would definitely kick my ass one on one, he’s not exactly our biggest player?  Would he have held up James Ryan the same way for example?

Again to be absolutely clear, I’m not saying the try denial wasn’t impressive, just that maybe the praise needs dialling down a few notches.   I’ll shut up now, it’s probably for the best.


TABOO WORDS FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS

This point is very simple, and shouldn’t need any explanation to long time readers, although according to this tweet by Ulster fan and occasional contributor Ian Frizzell the BelTel subeditors definitely need a crash course.

After two Irish wins to kickoff this season’s Six Nations, ALL MENTIONS of that two word phrase that rhymes with “bland jam” are OFF LIMITS whether spoken, typed or signed until further notice.  Please observe and pass it on to all around you.


INJURY REPORT

IRELAND

On top of the concerns we already had that Robbie, JGP, Tadhg & Dan would miss the remainder of the Six Nations, now the other Tadhg and even Sexton have become doubts.  All are presumptive starters but as we have seen so far the wider squad have earned themselves a ton of good faith so hopefully the supporters will buy in.

LEINSTER

Most encouraging bit of Leinster’s report was JJ moving out of the “no further updates” category we could really do with having him back when the knockout matches come around.  Given we’re also getting four back from Irish camp all in need of some game time I reckon we can put out a pretty decent lineup at the RDS on Saturday night…

J O’Brien, J Larmour, L Turner, B Brownlee, D Kearney, H Byrne, L McGrath

M Milne, J McKee, M Ala’alatoa, R Molony, J McCarthy, R Ruddock, W Connors, M Deegan

T McElroy,  M Hanan, T Clarkson, B Deeny, S Penny, N McCarthy, C Tector, R Russell

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Will Connors: came through the game against Cardiff Rugby with no issues following his return from injury

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Jason Jenkins: will look to increase his training load this week as he nears a return from a hamstring injury

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Cormac Foley: picked up a hamstring injury training last week and will be unavailable for selection

There are no further updates on:

Charlie Ngatai (hamstring), Ed Byrne (knee), Martin Moloney (knee), Ciarán Frawley (knee) and Tommy O’Brien (knee)


AIL UPDATE

First a word on the Women’s Celtic Challenge, the Irish Combined Provinces XV had a week off and resume their campaign with a match against the Welsh at the Kingspan on Saturday hoping to make it three wins from three, best of luck to them.

Next the men’s AIL is back with some interesting 1A matchups in round 13 as you can see.

Finally ICYMI our bonus pod last week was an interesting chat with Justin Middleton where he outlined his route to becoming the voice of the AIL and he also talks about what can be done to help promote the league to a wider audience.  Do check it out here.


Men’s AIL


Sat Feb 18

Ballynahinch v Terenure

Clontarf v Young Munster

Lansdowne v Cork Con

Shannon v Dublin University

UCD v Garryowen


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

As I said earlier our bonus pod this week features an interview with Brian Moylett about his book.

Then of course we will turn our attention back to the URC with the rebranded Dragons coming to the RDS on Saturday and of course the match will be getting the usual Harpin treatment with a preview Friday featuring Keego, a wrap on Sunday plus a whole lot of other features in between.

In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP