273 : #IREvROM preview

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Our Guest : MARK JACKSON


IRELAND : 15. Hugo Keenan 14. Keith Earls 13. Garry Ringrose 12. Bundee Aki 11. James Lowe 10. Jonathan Sexton (c) 9. Jamison Gibson-Park

1. Andrew Porter 2. Rob Herring 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Joe McCarthy 5. James Ryan 6. Tadhg Beirne 7. Peter O’Mahony 8. Caelan Doris

16. Ronan Kelleher 17. Jeremy Loughman 18. Tom O’Toole 19. Iain Henderson 20. Josh van der Flier 21. Conor Murray 22. Jack Crowley 23. Robbie Henshaw


ROMANIA : 15 M Simionescu 14 N Onutu 13 F Tangimana 12 J Tomane 11 T Manumua 10 Hinckley Vaovasa 9 Gabriel Rupanu

1 Iulian Hartig 2 O Cojocaru 3 A Gordas 4 A Motoc 5 S Iancu 6 F Rosu 7 V Neculau 8 C Chirica (c)

16 F Bardasu 17 A Savin 18 G Gajion 19 M Iftimiciuc 20 D Ser 21 A Conache 22 T Boldor 23 T Gontineac


Rugby World Cup 2023 Pool B

Sat Sep 9 KO 2:30pm (Irish time)

Stade de Bordeaux

TV : Virgin Media 1


Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)

AR1: Wayne Barnes (RFU)

AR2: Andrea Piardi (FIR)

TMO: Brendon Pickerill (NZR)

Live on: Virgin Media 1


Leinster starting XV v Munster

15 J Larmour 14 T O’Brien 13 L Turner 12 B Brownlee 11 R Russell
10 Ciarán Frawley 9 C Foley 1 J Boyle 2 L Barron 3 R McGuire
4 B Deeny 5 J Jenkins 6 M Deegan 7 S Penny (C) 8 J Culhane


Quick video on Munster v Leinster preseason friendly…

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Popped the aul blue jersey back on for a quick vid on the Munster v Leinster preseason friendly from Friday night

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270 : Harpin’ Preview Show – Ireland v Samoa

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IRELAND : 15. Jimmy O’Brien 14. Mack Hansen 13. Robbie Henshaw 12. Stuart McCloskey 11. Keith Earls 10. Jack Crowley 9. Conor Murray

1. Cian Healy 2. Tom Stewart 3. Finlay Bealham 4. Iain Henderson (c) 5. Tadhg Beirne 6. Ryan Baird 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Caelan Doris

16. Rob Herring 17. Jeremy Loughman 18. Tom O’Toole 19. James Ryan 20. Peter O’Mahony 21. Craig Casey 22. Ross Byrne 23. Garry Ringrose 


SAMOA : 15 D Paia’aua 14 E Fidow 13 UJ Seuteni 12 T Manu 11 N Ah Wong 10 L Sopoaga 9 J Taumateine 

1 J Lay 2 S Lam 3 Pl Alo-Emile  4 C Vui (cc) 5 T McFarland 6 T Seu 7 F Lee 8 S Luatua

16 S Malolo 17 J Lay 18 M Ala’alatoa (cc) 19 M Fai’ilagi 20 J Taufua 21 E Enari 22 C Leali’ifano 23 N Foma’i


Summer Nations Series

Sat August 26 KO 745pm

Stade Jean-Auger, Bayonne

TV : RTÉ2 


Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)

AR1: Andrea Piardi (FIR)

AR2: Adam Leal (RFU)

TMO: Ben Blain (SRU)


Live on: RTÉ2


BONUS CLIP

269 : Ireland v England wrap

2023 Bank of Ireland Nations Series, Aviva Stadium, Dublin 19/8/2023 Ireland vs England Ireland’s Keith Earls celebrates scoring a try Mandatory Credit ©INPHO/Evan Treacy

🏉 Women’s Interpros

🏉 Slow start at the Aviva

🏉 IRE>ENG in attack & confidence 

🏉 Im-Mack-ulate display

🏉 Fairytale for The Man


OUR GUESTS : TOM COLEMAN & JAY LONG


268 : Harpin’ Preview Show – Ireland v England

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IRELAND : 15. Hugo Keenan 14. Mack Hansen 13. Garry Ringrose 12. Bundee Aki 11. James Lowe 10. Ross Byrne 9. Jamison Gibson-Park

1. Andrew Porter 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Tadhg Beirne 5. James Ryan 6. Peter O’Mahony 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Cian Prendergast

16. Rob Herring 17. Jeremy Loughman 18. Finlay Bealham 19. Joe McCarthy 20. Caelan Doris 21. Conor Murray 22. Jack Crowley 23. Keith Earls.


ENGLAND : 15. Freddie Steward 14. Anthony Watson 13. Joe Marchant 12. Manu Tuilagi 11. Elliot Daly 10. George Ford 9. Ben Youngs

1. Ellis Genge 2. Jamie George 3. Will Stuart 4. Maro Itoje 5. David Ribbans 6. Courtney Lawes (C) 7. Ben Earl 8. Billy Vunipola

16. Theo Dan 17. Joe Marler 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Ollie Chessum 20. Jack Willis 21. Danny Care 22. Marcus Smith 23. Ollie Lawrence


Summer Nations Series

Sat August 19 KO 5:30pm

Aviva Stadium, Dublin

Ref: Paul Williams (NZL)

AR1: Craig Evans (WRU)

AR2: Adam Jones (WRU)

TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

Live on: RTÉ2

267 : RWC2023 all-provincial panel

bonus clip available on our YouTube channel


OUR GUESTS : IAN FRIZZELL, STEPHEN MURPHY & CAOLÁN SCULLY


🏉 Thoughts on Ireland v Italy

🏉 Expectations for remaining warmups

🏉 Quick look at other RWC2023 nations


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Catch the full pod on Spotify & most major platforms, with a bonus clip also on our YouTube channel RWC2023

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266 : Ireland v Italy wrap

Bank of Ireland Nations Series, Aviva Stadium, Dublin 5/8/2023 Ireland vs Italy Ireland’s Caelan Doris scores a try Mandatory Credit ©INPHO/Evan Treacy

OUR GUESTS : CONOR CRONIN & RICH MIFSUD



BONUS CLIP

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265 : Harpin’ Preview Show #IREvITA

Our guest : MARK JACKSON


IRELAND : 15. Jimmy O’Brien 14. Keith Earls 13. Robbie Henshaw 12. Stuart McCloskey 11. Jacob Stockdale 10. Jack Crowley 9. Craig Casey

1. David Kilcoyne 2. Rob Herring 3. Tom O’Toole 4: Iain Henderson 5. Joe McCarthy 6. Ryan Baird 7. Caelan Doris 8.  Jack Conan

Replacements:16. Tom Stewart 17. Cian Healy 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. Tadhg Beirne 20. Cian Prendergast 21. Caolin Blade 22. Ciaran Frawley 23. Calvin Nash


ITALY : 15 Tommaso ALLAN 14 Paolo ODOGWU 13 Juan Ignacio BREX 12 Tommaso MENONCELLO 

11 Montanna IOANE 10 Paolo GARBISI 9 Stephen VARNEY

1 Danilo FISCHETTI 2 Giacomo NICOTERA 3 Marco RICCIONI 4 Dino LAMB 

5 Federico RUZZA (c) 6 Sebastian NEGRI 7 Manuel ZULIANI 8 Toa HALAFIHI

16 Luca BIGI 17 Paolo BUONFIGLIO 18 Simone FERRARI 19 Niccolò CANNONE 20 Michele LAMARO 21 Lorenzo CANNONE 22 Alessandro FUSCO 23 Lorenzo PANI


Summer Nations Series

Sat August 5 KO 8pm

Aviva Stadium, Dublin

Ref: Mathieu Reynal (FRA)

AR1 : Pierre Brousset (Fra)

AR2 : Luc Ramos (Fra)

TMO : Eric Gauzins (Fra)


Live on: RTÉ2

Harpin’ On…Possible Sexton ban

Earlier this week it was reported that Ireland skipper Johnny Sexton has been accused of three disciplinary breaches on the day of the Champions Cup final at the Aviva Stadium, and that an independent panel was going to convene to discuss the possibility of a sanction.

With online reporting being what it is these days, naturally the story was originally broken using this heading : “Exclusive: Sexton could be forced into early retirement with 24-week ban”.  Obviously it’s the most basic formula being used there, namely choosing a headline that mentions the most extreme possible outcome to attract the most clicks and reaction.  And I have to give extra points to the City AM team for including a perfectly teed up photo with the article, we can only assume Johnny here is saying something like “fine display of refereeing there Jaco!!!”.

Anyway if a reaction is what they wanted, then that’s definitely what they got.  Well, first, let me give you mine.  

I know there are many who will assume since I’m a Leinster supporter then I’ll somehow choose to defend these allegations, but assuming they’re true and he did say those things at different times, well, I can’t defend them.  Of course there’s no excuse for saying anything to officials on the day of a match unless you are the nominated captain on the pitch while play is still going on, and even then it needs to be done respectfully.  

We all understand the disappointment of any kind of a loss and that goes double when it’s a major final and possibly triple when a match goes the way that one did.  But it should go without saying that we expect more from our leaders and all the way down to school children we want them to show respect to both opposition and officials especially in defeat.

But when it comes to the discussion over what kind of ban he’s going to receive, maybe we should all just back up a little.  For one thing, reports of this incident started breaking within hours of it happening and before we had any actual details, in several corners of the internet he was proclaimed guilty from the get go.  And I don’t just mean corners of the internet from countries outside of Ireland like the ones we’re due to face in the World Cup either.

Look, Johnny Sexton has always been a polarising force within the Irish bubble.  And even when he’s wearing the green jersey, a lot of supporters find it very difficult to acknowledge his contribution to Ireland’s success over the years and only seem to speak up when he makes the wrong kind of headlines.   And that’s fine, like I’ve said many times before, different people follow rugby for different reasons.

So while the online media have their own motives for suggesting this ban could rule him out of the World Cup, many seem to think there’s no chance he’ll get a ban simply because he is who he is and that the World Cup couldn’t do without him.

OK, well all of that speculation is fine, I guess, but I wonder if there’s any other method we can use to help us work out what kind of ban he could get for doing something like this?  How about precedent?  Have rulings been issued before for not respecting officials?  And is there any way we can link those involved in previous rulings to this particular case?

On November 23, 2022, Ruairidh O’Connor posted an article in the Irish Independent which had this headline : “Irish rugby should be finding ways to tempt Ronan O’Gara away from England job” (behind paywall)

Why am I bringing that up here?  Well first of all, I have to point out that I don’t argue with that sentiment at all – I think ROG has done extremely well as a coach and definitely should be on the IRFU’s radar, if just a long-term one for now, only a fool would argue otherwise.

But the reason I mention that Indo article is that on the very same day, the BBC reported that O’Gara had just received his fourth suspension in a year from French rugby.  What were those suspensions for?

In November 2021, O’Gara was banned for two weeks for “showing disrespect to the authority of an official” during a match against Toulon.

He was then suspended for two weeks in April 2022 for “indiscipline” and “challenging the decisions of officials” in a game against Racing 92

Then in September 2022 it was six weeks for “lack of respect” and “action against an official” at Lyon.

Finally this fourth ban in November 2022 was for 10 weeks for “harming the best interests of rugby”

Am I comparing his four offences over the space of a year to Sexton’s three in one day?  Maybe a bit, and maybe they are different circumstances in their own right, but while the incidents may not have happened in the same actual ball-park, they are definitely in the same topical one. 

So I have to say I’m baffled as to why neither the online entity that originally broke the Sexton story, nor the Irish supporters that are so happy to point out the possible consequences, are able to at least offer the O’Gara situation up as a comparison, I mean even without the fact that they were on opposite sides that day at the Aviva Stadium, you could say their career paths have crossed a few more times over the years.

If it took four hearings for O’Gara to be banned for 10 weeks, then the case against Sexton will need to be really, really bad for his first to get him anything close to that.  I’m not saying it’s impossible, and I’m not saying I’m at all happy about these reports and I wish he hadn’t done it, I just want to be sure that when we’re talking about it we’re using all the relevant information, and I’d say this was pretty relevant.

One thing I’m sure all Irish supporters agree on is that we hope that whatever the outcome of this matter, the effect on our World Cup chances is minimal.  We’ll just have to wait and see.

We’re planning to go back to our Sunday night pod recording times this coming weekend, for now we’re going to look at the Irish Under 20s as they prepare for the Junior Rugby World Championships down in South Africa so don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to all our social media channels and in the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are, stay safe everyone, slán. JLP

Harpin’ On…Jean Kleyn

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Hi Jeff Pagano here from Harpin On Rugby.  

We’ve been taking a couple of weeks off since the end of the 2022/23 season, obviously as a Leinster fan it didn’t exactly end up the way we wanted but overall as our first season with our new podcast based format we still had a lot of quality rugby to harp on going back to the beginning of last September and we look forward to getting back to it soon.

But I just thought I’d check back in with a TikTok today because there has been a lot of debate on Twitter over the past 24 hours or so since news broke that Jean Kleyn might be returning to the South African squad after being pretty much out of the Irish test picture since the 2019 World Cup.

Look.  One thing I’ve learned doing this over the years is that while  we all share a love of rugby, the fact remains we all love it for different reasons.  We’re all looking for something different from it.  And that doesn’t necessarily mean any of us is right about what we want from it, it’s just different.  For me, yes, I’m a Leinster supporter, I’m happy when we win, disappointed when we lose.  But I’m also an Ireland supporter, also happy when we win, also disappointed when we lose.   And to be an Ireland supporter I believe you have to be able to put the provincial stuff behind you, it’s an absolute necessity.

Now when it comes to Kleyn, of course I appreciate that there’s a fear among Munster fans that if he ends up taking advantage of the new rules to play for the Springboks, there’s a chance he might not be able to play for the province again.  And no team wants to lose their best players, especially one that played a large part in their winning their first trophy in over a decade.  That’s totally understandable.

You can probably tell I’m about to say but, right?  So here goes….BUT….

What exactly are we trying to say is happening when Kleyn is left out of the Irish training squad ahead of the World Cup?   Does it mean Andy Farrell thinks he’s not up to test standard?  Does it mean Farrell has something against him?  Does it mean he’s blaming him for Ireland’s performance in 2019?  Does it serve as further proof that there’s an anti-Munster or pro-Leinster bias in the Irish coaching ticket?

OR…could it mean that going back to the squad he picked ahead of the 2021 Autumn Nations Series it seems perfectly obvious that he is a coach that knows the way he wants play, selects the players he wants to fit that style regardless of what province they hail from, and since that time, has only been on the losing side twice, once in Paris against a French side on its way to a Grand Slam, and next in Auckland against an All Black side he went on to beat twice in the following weeks?

Just to be clear….I am aware that just because you win a bunch of games in a row that doesn’t guarantee you success in the immediate future, if you’ll recall I already mentioned I’m a Leinster supporter so I know this all too well.

But seriously….what does a test coach have to do to get a bit of leeway when it comes to his decisions?  We all know that no matter what squad he picks, someone is going to be left out, right?  We all know that those players who don’t quite make it are going to hail from one of the four provinces no matter what, right?  And we all know that a test coach probably shouldn’t make his decisions based on whether or not that means a player is going to stay at a particular province, right? 

I could go into a defence of the players who have made the squad ahead of Kleyn, I could also go into a defence of Farrell’s tendency to go for more versatile position players on the fringes of his squad, but really it’s not about that.  If this was just about a debate over the composition of the squad I wouldn’t be doing this video because we’ll always disagree on selections.  It’s just that there’s an extra element to this Kleyn debate that goes too far and probably would have if it involved a player from any of the other three provinces too.

It’s perfectly natural for Munster fans to still be on a high after their win in Cape Town, I know I would be if Leinster had found the extra points needed to turn our last couple of results around.  And like I already said, it’s perfectly natural to be concerned about losing a key player.  But I guess all I’m saying here is that maybe those two factors are leading some people to conclusions that are ignoring a lot of other facts.  

The Irish test squad is in a really really good place right now.  And from what I’ve seen it really looks like one of the many things Farrell is good at is giving the players he does select the belief they need to overcome pretty much any mental obstacle that can be thrown at them, from the whole “never won a test series in New Zealand” thing to the whole “no matter who he picks one set of provincial fans is going to complain” thing.

So this has me wondering…since the URC doesn’t kick off again until the World Cup has just four nations left, maybe we can take a break from the provincial stuff for a few months and just be Irish supporters?   

Anyway…like I said, a lot of us seem to want different things from following rugby but just so you know, here at Harpin’ Manor we’ll be taking another week or two off from the regular content, I mean there’s still a lot going on like the Irish sevens in both genders taking part in the European series, the Top 14 and Super Rugby playoffs, but we won’t be going back into full swing until Irish Under 20s start their Junior World Championships and then it will be all about the World Cup so be sure and stay tuned to all our social media channels and in the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are, stay safe everyone, slán. JLP