Undercooked. A few performances to forget but they have credit in the bank. A lot of fair weather fans throwing out demands and ultimatums. This was our first loss in 19 games at the Aviva, and it was to an All Blacks team with a lot more recent game time than us.
Sean MacDonnchadha
Worrying lack of aggression first and then lack of leadership. They’ve gone on and on about unfinished business from the World Cup and getting revenge. Didn’t see that tonight.
Kevin Kelehan
The best team Ireland has ever produced were more error prone than I’ve seen them in many years. 3 more games to keep the direction of travel in the right direction
James Murphy
Our front men standing back??
Letting them bully use in lineouts and scrums,
Crowley very poor, frawley not much better
But frawley deserves start next week
Poorest Irish performance in a long time
Brian Corr
Too many errors and then too many players losing it or dropping the heads.
Decision making was terrible and lineout was very poor.
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IRELAND : 15. Hugo Keenan 14. Mack Hansen 13. Garry Ringrose 12. Bundee Aki 11. James Lowe 10. Jack Crowley 9. Jamison Gibson-Park
1. Andrew Porter 2. Rónan Kelleher 3. Finlay Bealham 4. Joe McCarthy 5. James Ryan 6. Tadhg Beirne 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Caelan Doris (c)
16. Rob Herring 17. Cian Healy 18. Tom O’Toole 19. Iain Henderson 20. Peter O’Mahony 21. Conor Murray 22. Ciaran Frawley 23. Jamie Osborne
New Zealand : 15. Will Jordan 14. Mark Tele’a 13. Rieko Ioane 12. Jordie Barrett 11. Caleb Clarke (vc) 10. Damian McKenzie 9. Cortez Ratima
1. Tamaiti Williams 2. Asafo Aumua 3. Tyrel Lomax 4. Scott Barrett (c) 5. Tupou Vaa’i 6. Wallace Sititi 7. Sam Cane 8. Ardie Savea (vc)
16. George Bell 17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi 18. Pasilio Tosi 19. Patrick Tuipulotu 20. Samipeni Finau 21. Cam Roigard 22. Anton Lienert-Brown 23. Stephen Perofeta
Tom Coleman & Rich Mifsud were my contributors this week and they did their usual sterling work going back over Leinster’s win over the Lions last Saturday.
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Rowntree delivered Munster’s first trophy in 12 years when he concluded his first season in charge
“Remember, while it is part of a sporting spectacle, the haka is a cultural taonga, treasure, gifted to NZRU to perform respectfully, which they do now.”
With no injury report this week I thought I’d have a crack at selecting an ideal matchday 23 for Leinster if the Champions Cup were now, and all players were fit (bar the long term Dan Sheehan). Damn it ain’t easy!!! But I did want to make a point of leaving both Snyman and Barrett on the bench, not that I’ve anything against either, far from it, rather to highlight just how good the team can look without them. In the centre, our defensive standards have been so good this season I see no reason to throw Jordie Barrett in just yet, and as for RG I feel that when it came down to him or Ryan the South African would be better suited to an impact role. But the fact remains there are host of “toss up” calls all over the park, like Jimmy O’Brien for example although I like the idea of starting Ringer on the wing, but that’s just me.
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Now it’s time for Troll Patrol where we ‘detain’ a social media commentator and charge them with gaslightery and general online mayhem.
To be clear, not all of our Troll Patrol examples are necessarily bad or at least totally mean-spirited, it can often be both trolling and decent banter and this offering from Graham Love falls squarely into that category. I can totally see the benefit in a Scottish observer fanning the flames of the Leinster/Munster when they see the chance! Graham is definitely worth a follow if you’re not doing so already.
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26 October 2024; Josh van der Flier of Leinster is tackled by Edwill van der Merwe and Erich Cronje of Emirates Lions during the United Rugby Championship match between Leinster and Emirates Lions at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. Photo by Brendan Moran/Sportsfile
Sad to see McGrath’s decline. He seemed quite hesitant last night and the time when the ball popped out of the ruck and went between his legs was a prime try scoring opportunity.
Our scrum is now a serious area for concern. “If in doubt, ping Porter”
Jackie McEachern
Tough match although I think we likely would have scored more/gone a bit easier if JGP had been playing. I thought Sam did well and Doris and JVF were excellent! Glad to see Robbie back.
Jamie Bermingham
A tough game and exactly what we needed, the young lads impressed and Doris was an absolute wrecking ball. Lions definitely came for a battle and the scoreboard does not reflect how well they played
Chris McDonnell
Jvdf is just a magnificent 7. I can’t understand why mcgrath was kept and 3 better 9s are playing for other clubs
Tom Clarke
Breakdown needs some attention. Robbie looked sharp and Cooney looks a good prospect. Dorris is a top top player, but we know that!!
Alan Jacob
#1Vs #2 ….. good outing for the boys…. Dori’s ridiculous as always!! Prendergast had a solid game especially considering Lions had the ruck under serious pressure…. Needed a proper pressure game & an 80 min performance which were both delivered in spades.
Kevin Kelehan
Way too much aimless kicking in the first half which gave the Lions great opportunities to run at a Leinster in the 13-14 channel, once that was tightened up Leinster improved. Crowd got going at times but needed to give better support
19 October 2024; Max Deegan of Leinster scores his side’s fourth try, despite the tackle of Connacht’s Shayne Bolton, during the United Rugby Championship match between Connacht and Leinster at Dexcom Stadium in Galway. Photo by Seb Daly/Sportsfile
Happy enough with the Leinster performance. I was nervous when Frawley went off so early but thought Ross did a good job, especially in the conditions. Hope Frawley’s injury isn’t too bad.
Gavin Hegarty
Not much more else you can ask for. Top points from each outing. Yes we kinda let them back in it but we were never not dominant.
Clarkson for me had been coming into his own this season, he’ll be capped soon enough.
So utterly unlucky for frawley, this was his chance for the autumn series.
Craig Grehan
I think the match although winning shows some poorer choices of play by jpg at times.
Shows frawley is like the munster era snyman …and snyman is becoming a fan favourite.
Connacht as always put up a good fight and on another day would get more bang for their buck.
Cormac Mannion
I think we were switched on for a lot longer than last week. Hopefully Frawley’s injury isn’t too bad. Rotten luck for him
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Newly-crowned WXV 2 champions Australia head up band two as the fifth seeds, with Ireland, Scotland and Italy joining them.
“Although some believe that this rule will promote smoother play, statistics…show that a red card does not systematically mean defeat for the penalised team”
…a case this month…has raised questions over how Richard Boardman recruits players to join the lawsuit brought by his firm, Rylands Garth, against World Rugby
A Osborne, Turner, Henshaw, Tector, King, Prendergast, Gunne
Milne, G McCarthy, Clarkson, O’Tighearnaigh, Ryan (c), Deegan, Penny, Culhane
Smyth, Boyle, Slimani, Deeny, Soroka, McGrath, R Byrne, H Byrne
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INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
Robbie Henshaw: returned to training last week after a minor injury and will be available for selection this weekend.
INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:
Lee Barron: went off at half-time at the weekend with an ankle injury and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on his availability.
Ryan Baird: has entered the Graduated Return to Play Protocols and will be assessed as the week progresses.
Jordan Larmour: was not available for selection at the weekend as a precaution and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made.
INJURY UPDATE – NOT AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:
Rónan Kelleher: had a procedure on an ankle injury last week and will be unavailable for between four to six weeks.
Jack Conan: will be unavailable for selection this week after being withdrawn in the first half against Munster with a hamstring injury.
Joe McCarthy: will not be available for selection this week after picking up a hamstring injury in the Benetton Rugby game.
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Dan Sheehan, John McKee, Paddy McCarthy, Jimmy O’Brien and Tommy O’Brien.
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Now it’s time for Troll Patrol where we ‘detain’ a social media commentator and charge them with gaslightery and general online mayhem.
Last week we actually featured one of our own contributors in this segment because, well, you know, we’re fair like that. It was a Leinster fan trolling ahead of a clash with Munster. Now on the other side of the Croke Park clash, we’re also going to point out someone who has appeared on the pod before, only this time it’s a Munster fan.
Now to be clear, I wasn’t wild about the reports of Munster having difficulties bringing on a sub myself – I didn’t know about them until late Sunday evening, after our pod was recorded. A reaction like this, even if it is tongue in cheek (though that’s not obvious), might be a tad over the line. A real “John Delaney we should be the 33rd team” energy about it.
HOW TO BEAT LEINSTER
Here’s some more content from the URC site, I just thought the sub-editor’s choice of headline was a bit unfair to Pete Wilkins.
Connacht Reveal Formula For Beating Leinster
Connacht Rugby coach Pete Wilkins has been outlining what it will take to inflict the first defeat of the season on league leaders Leinster Rugby.
Wilkins says his team need to be brave, positive and fearless in Saturday night’s “massive” Irish interprovincial derby out in Galway.
Leinster have recorded bonus point victories in their first four BKT URC matches, so the big question is how can they be beaten?
“We have got to fire some shots,” replies Wilkins.
“It can’t be a game we are afraid to lose. It can’t be a mindset where we are trying to contain the opposition. “We have to be really positive and on the front foot in everything we do and that’s attack, defence and set-piece.
“The second part is recognising how important the first quarter of games are for Leinster. They are going after points early in terms of the intensity with which they start games.
“So that first quarter is going to be massive in terms of the foothold we can get in the game and how we can get the crowd engaged and the energy that comes from that.
“You’ve got to start well enough to ensure you are in the fight in the second half.”
Connacht have had mixed results so far, with two wins and two defeats, but they are certainly earning a reputation as an entertaining watch, having scored 17 tries in those opening four games.
“It’s a reputation I am happy for us to have and there are two reasons for that,” said Wilkins.
“One is we need to play a certain way to get enough wins to be competitive at the end of the season.
“With the type of players we have got, we need to be positive and brave in the way we play. I think it’s our best formula for success.
“The second part is it means we are staying true to the ethos of the club in terms of what this place is about. It’s about thriving sometimes in difficult conditions and it’s about firing shots and not daring to dream about what’s possible.
“That might sound a little bit twee, but we are making a conscious effort to try and embody that a little bit more strongly in the way we play.
“It’s making for a good watch at the moment. We are scoring tries and we are getting bonus points we wouldn’t have got last year.
“It’s certainly not dull, but the important thing is to keep striving towards winning.”
Maintaining their attacking strike-rate will be a tough ask against a Leinster side that has conceded just 54 points and eight tries in four league matches.
“It’s a brilliant challenge for us,” said Wilkins.
“There is such a clear identity to their defensive structure and intent, so it’s about being good enough to deal with it.
“It requires calm heads and a lot of accuracy to get either through it or around it.
“Any game against Leinster, you are going to have to score a good chunk of points to get a result.”
While Connacht have racked up 120 points so far – claiming victories over the Hollywoodbets Sharks and Scarlets along the way – they have conceded the same number and leaked 15 tries.
“We certainly need to be conceding less points,” said Wilkins.
“We conceded three maul tries against Ulster last week and I’ve no doubt that’s something Leinster will be looking to go after, which makes it an interesting challenge. We need to be good at both ends.”
In addition to losing 32-27 in Belfast last weekend, Connacht were also beaten 35-33 at Munster in the opening round.
So the question is whether they can make it third time lucky on the interprovincial front?
“We have played two really good Irish teams and the nature of our interpros is they tend to be the toughest going around compared to some of the other nations,” said Wilkins.
“To pick up four points from two interpros is four we wouldn’t have got last year.
“Would we have liked to have won one of them? Yes. Would we have liked to have won both? Absolutely.
“But we are getting better and we are not there yet.”
Connacht haven’t beaten Leinster in Galway since 2017, so a victory this weekend would be all the sweeter.
“The nature of our performance is incredibly important based on the previous Leinster visits, the progress we want to make and the quality of the opposition,” said Wilkins.
“If we can get that performance right, there’s competition points and a result there that’s entirely possible for us.
“Look, there’s a lot to play for. Our performances here at home are a source of incredible importance for this group. So it’s a massive game for lots of reasons.”
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12 October 2024; RG Snyman of Leinster celebrates with team-mates after scoring their side’s fourth try during the United Rugby Championship match between Leinster and Munster at Croke Park in Dublin. Photo by Sam Barnes/Sportsfile
Bar 2mins just before half time, we looked really disjointed and out of ideas after we scored the third try. It really was quite bizarre because we looked incredibly sharp in the first 15mins.
Also, setting up caterpillar rucks in the opposition half and launching up and unders? Seriously?
Micheal M Priest
Leinster, true to form, fall out of the game in the second half after creating a big lead. Just like previous European Cup finals.
Alright in this league against the likes of Munster, but get punished by the likes of La Rochelle and Toulouse. With such a large talented squad, when will serious questions be asked?
Aonghus O’Brien
Leinster defence looking good. Seemed to run out of ideas in attack in the second half but hopefully they are holding a bit back for the bigger European cup games etc
John Hyland
Leinster are turning into a 40 minute team. If they want silverware, they’ll need to get a lot more ruthless
Craig Grehan
Leinster were very much a first half team in the match.
The ref killed munster at times, but then again so did munster ball handling. A win is a win though.
Kevin Kelehan
Munster kept their shape despite the score, round 3 done. Who were the 1,800 eijits who paid good money for tickets and failed to turn up?
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