80+ column : Feb 14


On this week’s column…

🏉 SILENT LANSDOWNE

🏉 RED/GREEN

🏉 ALL THOSE OFFLOADS

🏉 STEVIE’S CALLING

🏉 THE DUPONTE LAW

🏉 ON ANDY GIVEN SUNDAY

🏉 A GROUNDING IN THE TMO’S ROLE

🏉 LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

🏉 RUGBYPASS TV’S UPS & DOWNS

🏉 UPDATES [Incl 🔝🐱🐴, AIL] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere, now including a few thoughts added by myself (JLP).

Ladies and gentleman, thank you for observing 17 minutes’ silence.

Players not deaf to the infamous Lansdowne hush

Michael Glennon – RTÉ.ie

JLP : The quote might be tongue in cheek but although I wasn’t there myself the reports I heard were that it was a very subdued Aviva crowd, with suggestions it might have to do with a “prawn sandwich” element who were able to afford the ticket price without necessarily being totally invested in the actual rugby.
“This is not about Scottish Rugby being belligerent.”

Scottish Rugby call on governing body to admit officials got try decision wrong

Matthew Elder – The Scotsman

JLP : I harped on this in the bonus clip as you’ll see below, but although I believe the officials came to the correct decision, I can’t really blame the SRU for getting an extra news cycle out of the incident.  This might have an air of “John Delaney asking for Ireland to be 33rd team” about it, but the call was so goddam close and decisive that you can see how they’d lash out, once they are also aware that the Scots did have plenty of chances before that to win the game as well….
The change should create more room for counterattackers as the defending team will all be offside until put back onside by the kicker, or kick-chasers.

Super Rugby closes kick tennis loophole to reward attack

Paul Cully – Stuff.co.nz

JLP : We found this link AFTER Tom’s bit in the bonus clip so at least there is something being tried to fix that wretched Duponte Law.
The ruling from Six Nations (means) in 2025 it would be Ireland travelling to Cardiff to wear a change strip 

Wales and Ireland to play each other in traditional red and green jerseys for final time as ban enforced

Jon Doel – Wales Online

JLP : I wondered why I had red about this red/green think years ago yet Wales/Ireland matches weren’t affected.  I would have thought that if it was definitely a problem for a portion of fans which had been officially identified by the sport’s governing body then surely the thing to do would be to make the change right away, but I suppose these things take time?
There was 11 offloads for Ireland today, that is significant. There was only three last week.

Brian O’Driscoll Identifies The Most Eye-Catching Stat From Ireland’s Win Over Italy

Gary Connaughton – Balls.ie

JLP : The quote pretty much tells the story, only thing I’d add is that most of that 11 weren’t just offloads, they were Marks & Spencer offloads…high risk but even higher confidence.

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


WRAP OF A (DELAYED) WRAP

Nobody likes a set weekly routine more than myself but when our feature match is on a Sunday afternoon there’s just no way I can prepare a wrap pod to my liking in time so we waited until the Monday.   Tom “LeinsterRoyalty” Coleman became our latest member of the 50-cap club joining Keego and Conor Cronin, and he and Jay did their usual bang-up job reviewing the whitewashing of Italy, although Tom did cause my  first 2024 use of the “Gran’s Lamb Protocol” where we vow not to use a certain phrase depicting 5 Irish wins until it is either achieved or no longer possible, so I had to deploy a “beep” sound at one point after he dropped the “S word” 😜.  

If you missed the wrap pod, here’s a link for Spotify but it’s also available on Apple and other platforms, please subscribe and/or leave a review if you can.


BONUS CLIP

A mixed bag of chosen topics this week, I have added the transcript from my bit below.

“A GROUNDING IN TMOs”

Now it’s time for my bit and after Tom harping on the kicking duel at the end of the first half of Scotland v France, I’d like to focus on an even more controversial incident from the end of the second in the same match.

Now when I say “controversial” I’m a bit torn on the use of this word.  It seems a bit sensationalist especially when you consider that I actually agree with the way the officials reached their decision.

But what I suppose does make it controversial was the fact that it was a call about a score that would have literally changed the result of the entire match as there was no time left on the clock.  Throw in the fact that the decision went against the home team and you have what must be up there with the top nightmares faced by referees in all sports.

Still I have to go back and explain why I agree with the officials so let’s look at the incident.  And to do this we need to take all the situational stuff out of it.  Forget it’s at Murrayfield, forget it’s Scotland, forget they were four points behind with the clock in the red.

On the 9th phase of a series Sam Skinner carried the ball over the line where he ran into some French defenders.  There was the predictable mass of bodies all around the ball but from referee Nic Berry’s angle, the ball was held up and that is how he called it.  This is the most critical information of the entire incident for me, but there is of course a lot more.

Berry ensured the Scots that the decision would be reviewed, which put matters into the hands of TMO Brian MacNeice.  OK, now you might think I’m defending his decision because he’s Irish but I suppose all I can do is hope that you appreciate that my actual motivation is for the correct decision to be reached where possible.

Anyway what MacNeice had to do was look over as many available angles as he could to see if there was a grounding – and that word grounding is the second most important aspect to all of this.  For this he had to hope for there to be a decent gap among all the other moving parts in the way…arms, legs, heads, boots, even the occasional arse, to catch a glimpse of the ball.

And as many have been at pains to point out, it does look to all intents and purposes that the ball actually does make its way to the Murrayfield grass.  In fact, many of those fans also went to great pains to screengrab the image the TMO was looking at as though it offered some “proof” that it should have been awarded as a try.

And to be fair, during the early part of MacNeice’s dialogue as he watched, it really did sound as though he wanted to award the try.  But there was a problem you see, one that those understandably eager screengrabbing Scottish fans probably missed.

It might seem like a contradiction but the fact remains that the ball touching the ground is not all we need to see in order to call it a grounding.  There is absolutely no evidence that Skinner or indeed any other Scotsman has their hand on the ball as it touches down.  And you need both.  He could have let it go.  There may have been separation.  And remember, even when it comes to the ball touching the ground, we were never 100% because we couldn’t actually see it.

All of which led MacNeice to say to Berry : “I cannot see for certain, I don’t have ball on ground Nick”

So what happens now?  It’s very simple.  With no conclusive way to overturn his original decision, Berry was only left with that decision.  It is definitely unfortunate, maybe even cruel, but having watched it over and over again I can only come back to the same conclusion. 

Now of course what I did at the time was to share my opinion on twitter, and we all know what happened next, I got replies stating categorically that it was a nailed on try, many with that screengrabbed so-called “evidence”.  So to avoid falling down a social media rabbit hole, I chose not to reply and instead waited until now to make my case.

To be absolutely clear…I was 100% shouting for Scotland, they are and have always been my second favourite Six Nations team.  Like I said, we have to take our allegiances out of the equation when discussing these calls otherwise there’s really no point discussing them.

I have always been in favour of using TMOs but only in a support capacity to the onfield referee.  In my view they should always make a decision themselves, which the guy in the booth must only overrule if they have 100% certainty and it’s only when this is accepted that we can appreciate that once in a while we can have a decision that looks both horribly unfair and absolutely correct in equal measure.


STEVIE’S CALLING

I hadn’t time for a TikTok rant this week but even if I had it wouldn’t be worthy of posting instead of this…he needs no introduction from me but I’m still happy to namecheck Stevie Mulrooney he’s definitely a star in the making.

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Absolutely brilliant! 👏 Stevie Mulrooney, the star of the Toy Show, sings Ireland’s Call in front of a sold out Aviva Stadium. Fantastic. 💚 IREvITA GuinnessSixNations SixNationsRugby IrishRugby Rugby

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LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

This week’s update did have good news with Jamie & Ross on the road to recovery but since neither were listed under “available for selection” I’m left struggling to put a Leinster backline together for Saturday without dipping into the academy, and with Hugo Keenan now not able to face Wales I’m wondering if we will even be able to avail of Ciarán Frawley’s services at all.

Harpin’ matchday 23 v 

Cosgrave, Russell, Turner, Brownlee, O’Brien T, Frawley, McGrath

Byrne E, McKee, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Jenkins, Deegan, Penny (c), Culhane

Barron, Healy, Clarkson, Deeny, Connors, Murphy, Prendergast, Turner

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley


INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

N/A

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Jamie Osborne: has increased his training load and will be further assessed this week as he makes his way back from a shoulder injury

Ross Byrne: has increased his training load and will be further assessed this week as he makes his way back from an arm injury

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

N/A

NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:

Martin Moloney (bicep), Alex Soroka (foot), Charlie Ngatai (calf), Cormac Foley (shoulder) and Jimmy O’Brien (neck)


RUGBYPASS TV UPS & DOWNS

Just a quick note on a couple of things I’ve seen on RugbyPass.TV – I was going to do my TikTok on this had I enough time (for a 3 minute video I need at least an hour that just wasn’t there this week!).

First there was Whistleblowers which I would strongly recommend.  Essentially it was “Full Contact for Referees” and definitely had a decent stab at humanising the officials from RWC2023.  I would definitely recommend it, but since they’re not paying me to say that I should also point out a video I didn’t like as well 😁.

This was Boks Office which was essentially a Springbok view of the Six Nations.  Now to be fair, this kind of input would be invaluable, coming as it does from outside the bubble, and with a panel of test capped stars (host Hanyani Shimange chatting to Jean de Villiers & Schalk Burger) you would definitely be interested.  

But this particular episode featured a review of Round 1 so obviously they would have been focusing on Ireland’s win in Marseilles.  They were full of praise for Andy Farrell’s men, but what ground my gears a tad was their assertion that Paul Willemse’s red card was the wrong call.  

I mean if that is what they honestly believed then I can’t really fault them for expressing their true opinion and I certainly wouldn’t want that opinion banned, I suppose I’m just disappointed that senior players feel that way and are clearly either ignorant of the spirit of the guidelines surrounding head contact or are actually opposed to them.  And the real irony was that I watched this chat right after I had watched Whistleblowers which noted the online abuse that referees can receive, meaning the lads’ views certainly do not help the matter.

That’s not to say I wouldn’t watch Box Office again, however, and they are certainly not alone when it comes to former-players-turned-pundits having these views.


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

After a weekend off the top four all find themselves at home in Round 15 so it’s likely for that end of the table to be just as tight, with both Oyonnax and Montpellier likely to be in even deeper relegation trouble as well.

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



Round 15

SAT FEB 17

LYON V LA ROCHELLE

BORDEAUX V PAU

RACING 92 V MONTPELLIER

STADE FRANCAIS V PERPIGNAN

TOULOUSE V OYONNAX

BAYONNE V CLÉRMONT

SUN FEB 18

CASTRES V TOULON


AIL UPDATE 

I have yet to find confirmation of this but I’m assuming that the way the Celtic Challenge works, the top three play each other and the results go to the final overall standings.  If so, the Wolfhounds can probably clinch the title with victory in Edinburgh this weekend, while their final match against the Clovers the following week is essentially a Six Nations trial.

While that comp took a weekend off, the Women’s AIL returned to action, with the result that came nearest to an “upset” being Belvo defeating Wicklow by “only” 13pts.  UL Bohs continued their 100% start, the gap between the top four and the rest grew wider, and that same four all avoid each other yet again in the next round. 

It wa a similar case in the men’s top division with the top four all victorious, although Cork Con seemed to have a bit of a scare at bottom of the table Trinity.  Tie of the round this weekend is definitely the 3rdv4th/Dublin derby that is Lansdowne v Terenure.

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WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND




WOMEN’S AIL

Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS 0-22 BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE 5-29 RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS 5-58 UL BOHS

WICKLOW 12-25 BELVO



Round 12

SAT FEB 17

UL BOHS V SUTTONIANS

BALLINCOLLIG V COOKE

BLACKROCK V WICKLOW

RAILWAY UNION V GALWEGIANS


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 13

CLONTARF 45-24 BALLYNAHINCH

TRINITY 17-19 CORK CON

SHANNON 13-28 LANSDOWNE

TERENURE 25-10 YOUNG MUNSTER

UCD 32-22 CITY OF ARMAGH



ROUND 13

SAT FEB 17

BALLYNAHINCH V TRINITY

ARMAGH V CLONTARF

CORK CON V SHANNON

LANSDOWNE V TERENURE

YOUNG MUNSTER V UCD


RUGBY EUROPE CHAMPIONSHIP UPDATE

I was kicking myself that I forgot to include an update for this comp last week, as I firmly believe it’s important to keep up on how these countries are doing what with the “6N promotion/expansion” returning every time Italy concedes a try and/or Georgia scores one.

There has of course already been one historic result in the 2024 Championship with Belgium defeating Portugal in round 1, although Os Lobos took out their frustrations on poor Poland last weekend with a 50🍔 while the Belgians couldn’t repeat their heroics in Bucharest.  However if Portugal are to sneak into the semifinals they will have to win in the Romanian capital on Saturday, especially if Belgium can also overcome the Poles.  Meanwhile in Pool A Georgia host Spain with both already safely through to the last four. 

ROUND 1

POLAND 8-20 ROMANIA

GERMANY 17-28 GEORGIA

BELGIUM 10-6 PORTUGAL

NETHERLANDS V SPAIN

ROUND 2

SPAIN 27-5 GERMANY

PORTUGAL 54-7 POLAND

ROMANIA 33-18 BELGIUM

GEORGIA 31-10 NETHERLANDS



ROUND 3

SAT FEB 17

GEORGIA V SPAIN

ROMANIA V PORTUGAL

BELGIUM V POLAND

SUN FEB 18

NETHERLANDS V GERMANY


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Kristian had a super round 2 and a bit like Ireland has opened a commanding lead atop the 6N league, although myself and Jay are also 6 for 6 when it comes to predicting winners.  With the URC back in action this weekend that means so does the HPL so I have also included that table.  Well, yeah, ok, the fact that I’m first in that one might have play a part in my decision…….

1 Kristian 12.00

2 Jeff 9.00

3 Jay 8.50

4 Mark 7.50

5 Conor 7.00

6 Tom 1.50


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Back to the URC this weekend, with a top of the table clash at the RDS no less as Benetton will be coming to D4.  Keego will join me for a preview on Friday while the wrap recording returns to its usual Sunday evening slot.  

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Feb 6


On this week’s column…

🏉 FRONT FIVE

🏉 “THE GRAN’S LAMB PROTOCOL”

🏉 BARRY JOHN RIP

🏉 JOSH UNDER THE BUS

🏉 IRELAND’S IMPROVING LINEOUT

🏉 A BONUS POINT ABOUT BONUS POINTS

🏉 SCRUMS UP IN THE AIR

🏉 UPDATES [Incl 🔝🐱🐴, AIL] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere, now including a few thoughts added by myself (JLP).

Barring a truly spectacular stumble, though, it is Ireland’s trophy to lose.
Six Nations rivals must react quickly to soaring Ireland after Marseille mauling
Robert Kitson – The Guardian

JLP : On our podcasts, the superstition I like to call the “Gran’s Lamb Protocol” has been put in place where we don’t use the phrase which refers to 5 wins out of 5 on the pod until it either happens or no longer can happen.  It’s partly genuine superstition, partly a bit o’ craic.  That doesn’t mean I share opinions in the media from other countries however, and after that first round of matches Kitson’s assertion is pretty on the nose.
“There was times when they scored that the crowd was going crazy…he was just calm, just telling us to get back into it…”
Josh van der Flier: Cool Peter O’Mahony helped us shut out Marseille maelstrom
Simon Lewis – Irish Examiner

JLP : Hang on…a Leinster player praising his Munster captain?  Surely not!  Seriously though…this is great to see and doesn’t contradict a single thing we saw with our own eyes on the night.  And as many have commented, during POM’s spell on the sideline Caelan Doris did a bang up job showing leadership as well.
“In theory…could just stop there and as long as nobody moved you could just take a break in play. It’s madness.”
Jackman And Lenihan Want To See ‘Ridiculous’ Dupont Law Changed
Eoin Harrington – Balls.ie

JLP : Here’s a radical idea…how about extend the “mark” rule beyond the 22 all the way to the halfway line?  Yeah that probably makes no sense, I literally just thought of it as I was typing, but whatever the solution I totally agree with Berch & Donal that the multiple bouts of kick tennis can be painful to watch.
“You have to remember this was an amateur game…Yes, he wanted to win every game he played, but it wasn’t life and death to him and it wasn’t his job.”
The genius of Barry John, his final Wales match and the only three people he told about it
Mark Orders – Wales Online

JLP : When John was in his heyday I was just a wee lad myself so I can’t relate to the impact he had on the game at the time but certainly the anecdotal evidence showed what a superstar he was in Wales at the time.  Sad though his passing of course is, one can hope that it might just help bring some unity across the principality that is badly needed with the sport he loved in such disarray.  In a couple of weeks I will be speaking to author Seimon Williams about his book “Welsh rugby – What Went Wrong?” where we will of course have much to discuss.
The quarter final ties will be played on the week commencing Monday 19th February
Draw for the Leinster Schools Senior Cup Quarterfinals
Paul Cahill – LeinsterRugby.ie

JLP : Terenure v St Michael’s seems to be the pick of the bunch although Monkstown v Mary’s might actually be the closest tie, we’ll see how they pan out.  From here on in all matches will be shown live on Premier Sports Ireland.

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


WRAP OF A WRAP

When I say how many “caps” a contributor has, it is generally with tongue in cheek, but it is worth mentioning when they reach a milestone like Conor Cronin did when he earned his 50th in wrapping the France match on Sunday evening.  He and Mark Jackson, himself just back from a spell on the sidelines, did an excellent job poring over the timeline of the match, and for once I have actually remembered also to remember the preview which was done by Keego who accurately predicted an Irish win although nobody could have dreamed of a 21-point margin!!!

If you missed the wrap pod, here’s a link for Spotify but it’s also available on Apple and other platforms, please subscribe and/or leave a review if you can.


HARPIN ON…WARREN G, LINEOUTS & BONUS POINTS

Still playing around with the format for the bonus pod but this week’s changes were more on the graphic side of things – having gone with individual videos for my all-provincial panel last week I looked to retain it for this one and I’d say it worked pretty well.  Conor focused on Gatland’s tactless post-match presser, Mark on Ireland’s lineout and I rehashed a bonus point theme I have been harping on for a while.


SCRUMS UP IN THE AIR

These TikTok rants are starting to go a bit longer than they probably should be, my original hope was that they should be no longer than two minutes.  But that said I have to cut the cloth to suit the topic and I felt the extra bits were worth it for this one.

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🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

There was no way Racing could keep losing while holding on to 1st place in the 🔝🐱🐴 but despite slipping to 4th they’re still only a point off their Parisian rivals who have reached the summit.  La Rochelle won’t feel so badly about being just six points off the pace given how their season has gone so far.

Meanwhile down at the bottom it is concerning to see names like Lyon and Montpellier in the relegation discussion but with 12 rounds to go and the way results in this league yoyo back and forth, for all we know they could still make the playoffs!

Most importantly, who’s idea was it to have a round on the opening 6N weekend?  Crazy all round, and you could argue that it hurt the French Under 20s as well.  But the 🔝🐱🐴 takes a breather next weekend.

Round 14

PERPIGNAN 26-5 RACING 92

OYONNAX 19-23 STADE FRANCAIS

CLÉRMONT 38-21 LYON

LA ROCHELLE 18-10 MONTPELLIER

PAU 33-44 CASTRES

TOULOUSE 46-26 BAYONNE

TOULON 32-37 BORDEAUX



Round 15

SAT FEB 17

LYON V LA ROCHELLE

BORDEAUX V PAU

RACING 92 V MONTPELLIER

STADE FRANCAIS V PERPIGNAN

TOULOUSE V OYONNAX

BAYONNE V CLÉRMONT

SUN FEB 18

CASTRES V TOULON


AIL UPDATE 

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure I went looking for a dedicated website for the Celtic Challenge competition and it only seems to be operational in the past week or so.   I also thought I was following this comp closely yet only now do I realise that it is not just a straight round robin format, in actual fact after 5 rounds the teams break into a top 3 and bottom 3 with two more matches for each to decide the placings.

All of which means the Wolfhounds v Clovers matchup on the weekend of the 24th will make for a decent final trial ahead of our upcoming 6 Nations campaign.

Now after my assertion in recent weeks that the Celtic Comp clashing with the AIL Cup wasn’t necessarily a bad thing, it will be interesting to see if these extra matches have an effect on the actual Women’s AIL which returns this weekend – as you can see the top four all avoid each other.

And in actual fact the same can be said of the men’s top division which also kicks back into gear this weekend, chances are the playoff spots there too will remain the same.

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WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE




WOMEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS V BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE V RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS V UL BOHS

WICKLOW V BELVO


MEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



ROUND 13

SAT FEB 10

CLONTARF V BALLYNAHINCH

TRINITY V CORK CON

SHANNON V LANSDOWNE

TERENURE V YOUNG MUNSTER

UCD V CITY OF ARMAGH


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Kristian was keen to start up a fresh prediction league for the Six Nations so I obliged – no prizes or forfeits, just bragging right and as you can see three of us correctly predicted the three away wins from round 1.

1 Conor 5.00

2 Jeff 5.00

3 Kristian 5.00

4 Jay 4.00

5 Mark 2.00

6 Tom 1.50

NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Italy are next on the agenda with the wrap pod moved to a Monday evening recording although the preview should post on Friday as normal.

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Jan 30


On this week’s column…

🏉 FRONT FIVE

🏉 WRAP OF A NON-WRAP

🏉 HARPIN ON…CON, ULS & MUN

🏉 WONDERS OF THE 7s WORLD

🏉 APPEALING APPEAL

🏉 UPDATES [Incl 🔝🐱🐴 , Prem & AIL] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere.

As he is Irish qualified, Burns would have additional appeal to Munster, who a few years ago had something of a logjam at ‘10′
Munster line up move for Ulster outhalf Billy Burns
Gerry Thornley – Irish Times
An independent appeals committee will hear the case via video conference (Tuesday).
EPCR to appeal Josh Caulfield red card decision
Michael Glennon – RTÉ.ie
“he’s probably been one of the main drivers of the team over the last number of weeks, and the run of games where we’ve been pretty successful.”
Irish Top 14 Coach On What To Expect From ‘Outstanding’ Dupont Replacement
Colman Stanley – Balls.ie
…(he) held the role of assistant coach under Declan Kidney during his time at London Irish.
Danaher new defence coach for Ireland women
SixNationsRugby.com
“You’re fat, you’re lazy”
England star tells all about Eddie Jones x-rated rant
Ruck.co.uk

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


WRAP OF A NON-WRAP

No Leinster or Ireland action last weekend so nothing to wrap which meant it was a good time for one of our “all provincial panels” where we look for some opinions  on the Irish squad from outside the blue-jersey bubble.  Joining me were two much-capped Harpists in Messrs Ian Frizzell & Pádraig Kelly and we also had an excellent debut from Patricia V who offered a Munster slant on things. 

If you missed it, here’s a link for Spotify but it’s also available on Apple and other platforms, please subscribe and/or leave a review if you can.


HARPIN ON…CON, ULS & MUN SEASONS SO FAR

As I say in the intro, it would be rude not to have fans of the other provinces on without asking them to summarize how their respective seasons have gone so far, and thi made for a perfect bonus clip topic.


WONDERS OF THE 7s WORLD

The regular sevens update is below and this was quite a week for it, but I also wanted to harp on the code for my TikTok bit since I was a bit negative a while ago over the whole Duponte thing.

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APPEALING APPEAL

Harped last week about the Caulfield decision…as you can see in the Front Five segment the EPCR has taken up the case to restore my faith in the sport, at least until we see how the matter is finally resolved.  To summarise, I reckon that since the referee can clearly be heard saying the stamp was “intentional”, IMO the final ruling has to somehow resolve this, either by cleaning it up by saying he mis-spoke or by applying the appropriate sanction because if a player intends to stamp like that on an opponents’ head, they should know this is not the port for them.


URC WRAP

Couple of extra matches down in SA throughout January which official brought the URC 23/24 regular season to the halfway stage, resuming with a top of the table clash at the RDS in mid-Feb.

ROUND 8

SHARKS 18-20 LIONS

ROUND 9

BULLS 30-28 LIONS



ROUND 10

FRI FEB 16

SCARLETS V MUNSTER

ZEBRE V EDINBURGH

SAT FEB 17

LIONS V BULLS

LEINSTER V BENETTON

SHARKS V STORMERS

CARDIFF V CONNACHT

GLASGOW WARRIORS V DRAGONS

SUN FEB 18

OSPREYS V ULSTER


“SVNS” UPDATE

Both genders got off to winning starts in Perth but then I tweeted about it which of course meant they both went on to lose their next matches so I decided it was best to stop doing that.

The rest, as you probably know, is history as both teams bounced back with two wins on the Saturday to put them in semifinals, the women overcoming Fiji and the men only falling to an Argentine squad which went on to win the whole thing and now tops the series table.

Let us be perfectly clear about what the Irish women achieved to win their final.  Australia were not just firm favourites on account of being the home side.  They have easily been the form team over the series so far and when Ireland weren’t able to capitalise on them putting their kickoff out on the full, Casslick’s try after 2 minutes to put them ahead seemed to be the beginning of the end for us.

But we stormed right back from the restart with great combinations that allowed Beibhinn Parsons to draw us level before a bizarre series at the end of the half when Ireland attacked their line as Australia shipped 5, yes, FIVE consecutive penalties before the referee flashed a card and even then we weren’t certain to capitalise although eventually skipper Lucy Mulhall got us an absolutely crucial score before the break.

The Aussies struck back to level things up as Levi stormed up the middle for their second converted try but some absolutely savage Irish defending around halfway forced a knockon putting us back in opposition territory before Eve Higgins nudged us back in front.  This put the whole ball game on the restart and we won it back to kill the game and claim a famous victory.

We now sit in 4th on the women’s table with Australia still comfortably ahead at the top, while it’s Argentina who have the commanding lead on the men’s side and while over there Ireland are 5th, we’re actually a lot closer to second so there is a whole lot for both genders to play for when the series rolls around to Vancouver in February.

PERTH 7s

#IREW7s 

POOL STAGE 

USA 14-19 IRE

NZL 21-14 IRE 

IRE 26-7 JPN

QF

FIJ 12-14 IRE 

SF

IRE 31-7 GBR

F

AUS 14-19 IRE

#IREM7s

POOL STAGE

IRE 17-12 GB

IRE 7-26 USA

AUS 10-19 IRE

QF

IRE 21-14 FRA

SF

IRE 5-24 ARG

3rd place playoff

IRE 24-7 FIJ



NEXT IN THE SERIES…

VANCOUVER FEB 23-25

LOS ANGELES MAR 2-3

HONG KONG APR 5-7

SINGAPORE MAY 3-5

MADRID MAY 31-JUN 2


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

The big question here is how the hell are Racing still top when they keep losing?  This time it was Toulouse overcoming them in Paris and now only 4 pts separate the top 5 with La Rochelle staying in touch with the playoff spots by their fingernails after a 7th loss of the campaign.

You might think the 🔝🐱🐴 might respect the 6mas tradition and take this coming weekend off but you’d be wrong, with Toulon v Bordeaux probably the pick of the seven matches.

Round 13

BORDEAUX 26-30 STADE FRANCAIS

BAYONNE 21-17 OYONNAX

CASTRES 20-23 CLÉRMONT

LYON 36-24 PERPIGNAN

MONTPELLIER 22-17 PAU

TOULON 25-23 LA ROCHELLE

RACING 92 20-27 TOULOUSE



Round 14

SAT FEB 3

PERPIGNAN V RACING 92

OYONNAX V STADE FRANCAIS

CLÉRMONT V LYON

LA ROCHELLE V MONTPELLIER

PAU V CASTRES

TOULOUSE V BAYONNE

SUN FEB 4

TOULON V BORDEAUX


PREMIERSHIP UPDATE

After such a successful Champions Cup pool stage, Northampton were able to ease back into the domestic comp with a handy home win over hapless Newcastle but the match everyone was walking about was the West Country derby where Bristol outlasted Bath in a shootout including a very un-Messi-like brainfart from Finn Russell towards the end.

The Saints now have a 7 point lead with 9 wins although there’s quite the chasing pack with SIX clubs all have the same won 7 lost 5 record so it’s all to play for in the next round…which doesn’t roll around until the end of March.

ROUND 11

HARLEQUINS 19-20 LEICESTER TIGERS

NORTHAMPTON SAINTS 38-13 NEWCASTLE FALCONS

BRISTOL BEARS 57-44 BATH

SARACENS 40-22 EXETER CHIEFS

GLOUCESTER 32-20 SALE SHARKS



ROUND 13

FRI MAR 22

BRISTOL V NORTHAMPTON

LEICESTER TIGERS V GLOUCESTER

SAT MAR 23

BATH V SALE SHARKS

EXETER CHIEFS V NEWCASTLE

SARACENS V HARLEQUINS


AIL UPDATE 

Wolfhounds are on the verge of securing the Celtic Challenge title after a convincing win over the Thunder made it 4 wins from 4 and victory over the other Welsh club Gwalia Lightning next weekend will get the mostly Leinster/Ulster outfit over the line, while Edinburgh hosting the Clovers could be a contest for 2nd place although both are still mathematically in the title race.

Over in the Men’s AIL, Cork Con edged the big clash with Tarf by the point to narrow the North Dublin side’s lead at the top to just one point while Lansdowne, Terenure and Hinch all kept themselves in the playoff picture with victories.

The league takes a break for 6Mas weekend.

#SupportYourLocalClub

WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE

ROUND 4

GLASGOW WARRIORS 10-29 CLOVERS

WOLFHOUNDS 41-10 BRYTHON THUNDER

GWALIA LIGHTNING 19-20 EDINBURGH



ROUND 4

SAT FEB 3

EDINBURGH V CLOVERS

WOLFHOUNDS V GWALIA LIGHTNING

BRYTHON THUNDER V GLASGOW WARRIORS


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 12

BALLYNAHINCH 40-13 UCD

CITY OF ARMAGH 29-21 YOUNG MUNSTER

CORK CON 27-26 CLONTARF

LANSDOWNE 31-19 DUBLIN UNIV

SHANNON 5-31 TERENURE



ROUND 13

SAT FEB 10

CLONTARF V BALLYNAHINCH

TRINITY V CORK CON

SHANNON V LANSDOWNE

TERENURE V YOUNG MUNSTER

UCD V CITY OF ARMAGH


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Just the one URC match last weekend which formally ended Round 9 – and while everyone predicted the Bulls to beat the Lions, it was actually only Keego who said it would be as close as it was so just this once he was one with bragging rights…until he saw the overall table of course.  He’ll need a lot more forecasts to go his way over the second half of the season if he is to avoid retaining the Jersey of Shame.

NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

It’s 6mas week and thus a busy one…on Wednesday I’ll post a special pod interview with Ball Handling Hooker looking at the latest crop of Irish Under 20 players ahead of their own Grand Slam defence, then with the big match being on Friday, our preview with Keego moves to Thursday but the wrap pod will stay in its usual slot, recording on Sunday.

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Jan 23


On this week’s column…

🏉 FRONT FIVE

🏉 WRAP OF A WRAP

🏉 HARPIN ON…

🏉 POM TIKTOK

🏉 LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

🏉 FOUL PLAY ‘✓’ RED CARD ‘✖’ ME ‘?’

🏉 WOMEN’S AIL CUP

🏉 UPDATES [Incl 7s & Chall Cup] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere.

“I don’t buy into that four-year cycle talk.”
Andy Farrell outlines why Ireland had no uncapped players in full Six Nations squad
Patrick McCarry – SportsJoe.ie
With Jelonch’s absence, 21 of the players who competed at last year’s World Cup on home soil are in the Six Nations squad
France duo Anthony Jelonch and Emmanuel Meafou out of Ireland game
RTÉ.ie
…current boss Gatland has admitted Ruddock is a viable option “at some stage” during the tournament
Warren Gatland says one Ireland star ‘potentially available’ to Wales for Six Nations
Mark Donlon – Extra.ie
“Owen Farrell joins Racing 92 from 1 July, initially singing a two-year deal.”
Owen Farrell joins Racing 92 in summer
Alan Dymock – Rugby World
In a poll run by the NZ Herald…41% of readers [gave] the former Ireland head coach the thumbs up….Only 37% of readers voted for Robertson
Kiwis snub Razor for Schmidt
SA Rugby Mag

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


WRAP OF A WRAP

Thankfully we didn’t lose any actual rugby to Storm Isha but we nearly lost our wrap pod as Jay reported power outages in his area up to an hour to our recording time but he made it through and along with Rich they did a top job going back over the win at Welford Road.

If you missed it, here’s a link for Spotify but it’s also available on Apple and other platforms, please subscribe and/or leave a review if you can.


HARPIN ON…JOE TO AUS, PREM IN CC & WHAT IS “RECKLESS”?

In our latest bonus clip we have Rich looking at some rare positive news for Australian rugby, Jay points out the success of the Premiership clubs in this season’s Champions Cup and below you see the transcript of my contribution where I harp on the continued misunderstanding when it comes to anti-concussion regulations.

RECKLESS DEFINITIONS

Well we’ve had to do a lot of rethinking of how we look at tackles over the past decade or so.  From all the talk of zero tolerance which somehow reduced itself to zero over time to the bunker system trialled at the recent Rugby World Cup that seemed to work pretty well for the most part, the game’s powers that be have made several efforts to make the game safer.

And whenever I go to harp on this topic I always feel I have to point out that safety is the driving force behind these changes, because every time there’s a debate over the way a particular on-field decision is worked out, there still seems to be a lot of people out there who just can’t get that concept.

Without fail when a red card gets flashed you’ll find somebody somewhere using one of the most triggering phrases for me right now, namely “that’s a disgraceful call there’s no way that was intentional.”  I really can’t get my head around just how this issue hasn’t been put to bed years ago.

Just this weekend we had at least two perfect examples of this in the final pool round of the Champions Cup, first there was a stamp by Bristol’s Josh Caulfield on the head of Connacht’s Finlay Bealham and then on Saturday evening Tom Ahern got the knee of Northampton’s Curtis Langdon to the head twice, with the second one leading to another red.

Now it might be wrong for me to choose these particular examples since in both cases the injured parties were players for Irish provinces which might make it look like I’m biased, but I have to look past that because the only way we can have a proper discussion about this is by taking the jersey colours out of the equation.

In Caulfield’s case the bulk of the disagreement stemmed from the referee’s use of the word “intentional” as he announced his final decision.  This led to a flurry of reactions which implied that if there was no intent, then it couldn’t be red and that literally could not be further from the truth.

On the official list of criteria that citing commissioners use to assess foul play, there are 13 items listed in order of importance.  At the top of that list is “intentional/deliberate”.  But right behind it at number 2, or b to be precise, is the word “reckless”.  I really hope the problem here is that people don’t know what that word means, rather than it’s that they don’t realise just how important recklessness is in determining a red card and further sanction.  It’s just one below actual intent and it still leads to red.

Now the referee’s ruling for the Langdon dismissal at Thomond Park made this much, much clearer. He said QUOTE “The first contact was clearly accidental. The second one we can’t say it’s intentional, but it is reckless the player is definitely injured so it is red card.” END QUOTE Not even the French accent of Monsieur Trainini could mask this very clear explanation of the Laws and guidelines right there.

I really hope we can at least come to a point where the vast majority of those enjoying these top rugby matches appreciate what’s involved in these decisions, because while it’s bad enough to see those watching at home on their sofas not understanding, when we’re still getting it from ex-players in the media in the year 2024 it really does make you feel like you’re banging your head against a brick wall which of course leads to the very kind of injuries these sanctions are genuinely trying to avoid. 


TRUST YOUR CAPTAIN

It really bugs me to see all the speculation over Peter’s contract, especially when I see it going to such lengths as to compare his situation to others suggesting there is some kind of conspiracy at work against him and/or his province.  We don’t know enough, it’s none of our business, AND he is the ‘War God’ so let’s just trust him and get on with supporting the boys in green.

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LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

Nothing released at time of posting and Leinster are off until February anyway so might leave this segment aside for the next few week – besides, it’s time to start giving Irish team updates starting next Tuesday.


FOUL PLAY ‘✓’ RED CARD ‘✖’ ME ‘?’

Having referenced the Caulfield challenge in the bonus clip which was recorded Sunday, his actual hearing came just 24 hours later and the result was disappointing if not surprising.

Please don’t get me wrong – I don’t actually want to see any player banned for a long length of time but the fact remained the player was sent off for a stamp to the head which the referee clearly described as “intentional” so I was very curious to see how the final ruling would address this because if a player is judged to have intentionally stamped on the head of an opponent surely the only option is for a lengthy ban.  

As you see below, instead, they just ignored that part of it altogether.

“Caulfield was sent off by the referee, Pierre Brousset (France), in the 13th minute of the match for stamping on the Connacht Rugby prop, Finlay Bealham, in contravention of Law 9.12.

The committee determined that Caulfield had committed an act of foul play, however, it found that the offence did not warrant a red card, and the red card decision was therefore overturned.”

I assumed they’d clean up the “intentional” remark like perhaps saying the ref mis-spoke and to be honest I prefer that much more to actually pretending it wasn’t said at all or at least wasn’t significant.

But on top of that, to determine it was both foul play AND not a red card is like saying 2+2=62,387 as far as I’m concerned.


“SVNS” UPDATE

The new look “SVNS” circuit gets back underway this weekend with the latest event in Perth.  Significance of this one is that it’s over three days so teams won’t have more than two matches per day which should obviously help the fitness levels.  After two rounds the women sit in 7th and the men 5th with both more than capable of moving up their respective ladders.  As ever all the action will be streamed live via Rugbypass.tv.



IRELAND’S PERTH FIXTURES

FRIDAY, JANUARY 26

5:32AM – WOMEN V USA

7:51AM – MEN V GREAT BRITAIN

9:56AM – WOMEN V NEW ZEALAND

12:50PM – MEN V USA

SATURDAY, JANUARY 27

2:44AM – WOMEN V JAPAN

6:11AM – MEN V AUSTRALIA


NEXT IN THE SERIES…

VANCOUVER FEB 23-25

LOS ANGELES MAR 2-3

HONG KONG APR 5-7

SINGAPORE MAY 3-5

MADRID MAY 31-JUN 2


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

Some big clashes at the top of the table as 1st plays 3rd and 2nd plays 4th in Round 13 (which is the halfway point of the regular season btw) but for me the match of the round is La Rochelle’s trip to Toulon – defeat for ROG’s men would be their 7th of the campaign and put them even further away from that elusive Brennus.



Round 13

SAT JAN 27

BORDEAUX V STADE FRANCAIS

BAYONNE V OYONNAX

CASTRES V CLÉRMONT

LYON V PERPIGNAN

MONTPELLIER V PAU

TOULON V LA ROCHELLE

SUN JAN 28

RACING 92 V TOULOUSE


PREMIERSHIP UPDATE

Northampton are arguably the form team in Europe right now and with winless Newcastle due to visit Franklin’s Gardens in round 12 they could well extend their lead at the top with many of the chasing pack playing each other.



ROUND 11

FRI JAN 26

HARLEQUINS V LEICESTER TIGERS

SAT JAN 27

NORTHAMPTON SAINTS V NEWCASTLE FALCONS

BRISTOL BEARS V BATH

SARACENS V EXETER CHIEFS

SUN JAN 28

GLOUCESTER V SALE SHARKS

AIL UPDATE 

A lot of online chatter in women’s rugby has been about the postponements in the AIL Cup but to repeat an opinion I shared here a few weeks ago, I’m not altogether sure this represents another stick to beat the IRFU with necessarily.

Sure, it is far from a good look for senior clubs to be unable to field players in an official competition, but we need to remember why the competition exists in the first place.  

Last season both the interpro series & WAIL were done and dusted before Christmas, definitely a “stick” as mentioned above.  So this season, they turned the WAIL into a home-and-away competition AND with the expansion of the international Celtic Challenge to include an extra team, they made sure there were no league fixtures overlapping with it and instead used the cup to give the clubs some rugby in that time.

So while it is true that this ended up exposing the lack of available players, I would argue that it was done with the best intentions, while adding that it is certainly not MY intention to defend the IRFU for the sake of it.  

In this case, just to be devil’s advocate if nothing else, I’d suggest maybe they tried to offer more competitive rugby but just overshot the mark.

Anyway…back to the Celtic Challenge, and after a week off it returns to action with the table-topping Wolfhounds hosting Brython Thunder while the Colvers must travel to Glasgow.  Live coverage will be on RugbyPass.tv again.

Over on the men’s side, Tarf slipped up at home to Lansdowne allowing the chasing pack to catch up and with Hinch narrowly losing out to the Cookies it means the top four are starting to see some daylight.  Pick of the next round is an easy one with the top two going at it down in Cork.

#SupportYourLocalClub

WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE



ROUND 4

SAT JAN 27

GLASGOW WARRIORS V CLOVERS

WOLFHOUNDS V BRYTHON THUNDER

SUN JAN 28

GWALIA LIGHTNING V EDINBURGH


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 11

CITY OF ARMAGH 13-37 TERENURE

CLONTARF 26-29 LANSDOWNE

TRINITY 38-9 SHANNON 

UCD 24-34 CORK CON

YOUNG MUNSTER 26-25 BALLYNAHINCH 



ROUND 12

SAT JAN 27

BALLYNAHINCH V UCD

CITY OF ARMAGH V YOUNG MUNSTER

CORK CON V CLONTARF

LANSDOWNE V DUBLIN UNIV

SHANNON V TERENURE


CHALLENGE CUP UPDATE

Even with the round of 16 pairing being decided after round 4 the highlight for me was the news from Tblisi as Black Lion may have fallen at the final hurdle and missed out on further progress but still that 17k attendance for the visit of Clérmont certainly caught the eye.

And while we’re at the bottom end of the competition we really have to mention the demise of the Scarlets this season, for a club that won a major title as relatively recently as 2017 it’s a real disappointment to see them struggling in both competitions now.

So anyway back to the competition itself, like I said there are now 16 left in contention with four dropping down from the Champions Cup which included both Ulster and Connacht, both of which face tricky challenges away to 🔝🐱🐴 opposition.

Personally I’m looking at that bracket and wondering if Benetton aren’t worth a sneaky bet to win it all?

ROUND 4

GLOUCESTER 35-5 CASTRES

SCARLETS 19-31 EDINBURGH

BLACK LION 3-36 CLÉRMONT

PAU 28-27 ZEBRE

OYONNAX 28-27 CHEETAHS

BENETTON 27-19 MONTPELLIER

PERPIGNAN 23-32 NEWC ASTLE

LIONS 28-38 OSPREYS

DRAGONS 9-29 SHARKS




NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Time to hang up the blue jersey for a bit and go back to the green, in fact I’ll have to take the time to go change the logos on all the social media channels too.  On Sunday evening with no wrap pod I will instead be having fans from Ulster, Connacht & Munster on to look at Ireland’s Six Nations chances, and while I have them it would probably be rude not to ask them to harp on their own provinces a bit too. 

We should have some other content floating around as well so keep tabs with any or all of our social media channels and please comment, like, share & subscribe whenever the mood takes you.

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Jan 16


On this week’s column…

🏉 FRONT FIVE

🏉 WRAP OF A WRAP

🏉 2ND STRINGING US ALONG

🏉 MUNSTER TRIAGE

🏉 A TONY BRIDGE TOO FAR

🏉 FORMAT REFORM

🏉 LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

🏉 LRZ TO USA

🏉 UPDATES [Incl Challenge Cup & AIL] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere.

A Tour schedule has still to be finalised, but it will not overlap with the men’s 2027 Rugby World Cup in Australia.
New British and Irish Lions women’s team to tour New Zealand in 2027
Andy Wright – Rugby World
The news will be a big blow for both La Rochelle and France as the 26-year-old has been in impressive form since his return from the World Cup campaign.
Pierre Bourgarit set to miss France’s Six Nations campaign
Frank Nickson – Talking Rugby Union
“A pioneer for women’s sport in Ireland, it is fitting that she bows out at the top having recently become the first female match official to officiate at a men’s Rugby World Cup,”
Joy Neville to retire from refereeing and take up development role with Connacht
Irish Times
“No deal has been done, there is no confirmation of anything for next year. It’ll be me [who has the final say on signings].”
Owen Farrell: Racing 92 coach Stuart Lancaster confirms interest in signing Saracens fly-half
BBC.com
Virgin get the first crack at covering a game for the current holders and Grand Slam winners. 
RTÉ and Virgin unveil their Six Nations pundits, fixtures and commentators
Patrick McCarry – SportsJoe.ie

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


WRAP OF A WRAP

Had a go at our new wrap format this weekend having switched the Front Five segment over to this column as you see above.  It certainly gave us more time to harp on our feature match and as ever Conor & Tom did a bang up job getting it done.

If you missed it, here’s a link for Spotify but it’s also available on Apple and other platforms, please subscribe and/or leave a review if you can.


NEW LOOK BONUS CLIP

The bonus clip also got a mini makeover; instead of three of us harping on one topic we will now each bring our own chosen subjects for a brief rant.  I’ve posted the transcript from my Duponte bit below FWIW.

A TONY BRIDGE TOO FAR?

2024 is an Olympic year and of course it has been great for rugby to have been included as a discipline even if it is the shortened sevens version of the game.

And from an Irish point of view we have both genders taking part in the tournament in Paris and going by the way both have played so far on the world circuit there’s every possibility for us to be in contention for a medal or two all going well.

But what I’d like to harp on here is the decision to include Antione Duponte in the French squad for the tournament.  Obviously there are many benefits for this…France will certainly want to do well on their own patch especially given how the World Cup turned out.  And anyone who watched the Ulster Toulouse game on Saturday evening will know he is still very much at the top of his game and given how he can create space from nothing on a pitch with 30 bodies on it, you can only imagine how he’d tear it up in sevens so when the Games are actually taking place at the end of July it should be a good advertisement for all forms of the sport.

For me though, none of those positives outweigh the downsides.  Obviously for this I have to take off both my Leinster and Ireland hats because the fact that he will be unavailable for both the Six Nations and the business end of the Champions Cup certainly won’t hurt our chances at all.  But with an overall rugby supporters hat on, you really do want the best players available for all the top matches and as exciting as all as the sevens code may be, surely the fifteens version has to trump it every time.

Then there’s the fact that Duponte parachuting into the French sevens squad means that someone who has been involved with sevens regularly for the past while is likely to miss out.  I have also heard talk of Irish fifteens stars like Nick Timoney doing likewise and while the addition of talent like that would certainly help our chances, the actual Irish sevens men’ squad has become quite settled over the past few seasons and given these players are being denied the opportunity to achieve the honours afforded by playing for provinces, for any to also miss out on a medal chance just doesn’t sit well with me.

Of course on the women’s side the issue is even bigger since they don’t even need the Olympics to deprive the senior fifteens squad of the best available players.  I could be wrong but you have to assume our last place finish in the 2023 Six Nations could have been avoided with the likes of Beibhinn Parsons and Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe involved.

At the end of the day there’s no disputing that seven into fifteen just doesn’t go evenly in every sense.  The best way forward has to be to keep them apart and prioritise the version of the sport that came first.  


FORMAT REFORM

I’m wary of doing these TikToks just to go along with popular views on rugby matters so this week I have gone with the (admittedly not exactly sexy) topic of Champions Cup format reform.  Again I have included the transcript.

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With the final round of Champions Cup pool matches coming up I suppose it’s time to have another crack at addressing the much debated issue of the format, but for this I actually don’t agree with what seems to be the popular opinion.

Having said that I should probably start by pointing out that I’m not exactly a fan of the current method either, I just disagree with what most people are finding wrong with it.  Judging by comments on social media it seems that the biggest flaw of the current system is the fact that you can lose three of your four pool matches and still qualify for the knockouts.

Personally I don’t think that’s as ridiculous as you might think.  For one thing, under the round robin pools of four everyone is saying we should go back to, you weren’t trying to get into the last 16 it was the last 8 and besides, teams still have qualified for the quarterfinals winning just 3 of their 6 pool matches for example in 2016 Exeter actually topped their pool despite three losses  so it’s not like your record had to be all that perfect.

But more importantly we have to remember that the last 16 stage is actually replacing rounds 5 and 6 from the pools in the old method.  So instead of up to 24 matches a lot of which are dead rubbers, we now actually have 8 matches all of which are straight knockout rugby and even if you did qualify with just one win, you most certainly aren’t guaranteed an easy task for getting any further.

But look like I said, I’m not wild about the current way myself so I won’t try to defend it anymore than that, what I will say is that we need to be clear on what is actually causing the problem.  The domestic leagues, specifically the English & French ones, just don’t seem to be willing to give back the extra weekends required to go back to the old way so until that happens, we’re bound to be having this debate every season whatever way they structure this competition.

All I’m saying is that if there is to be a change it needs to one that fixes issues that were even there in the format during the so-called golden years, like the fact that teams have always been forced to choose between the continental and domestic fixtures when it comes to picking their strongest sides.  

Until that happens it seems pointless arguing over the format, we might as well focus on the actual rugby-related questions like can anyone stop Toulouse and Bordeaux, can La Rochelle overcome their shaky start and, of course, can Leinster finally get that fifth star?

[Besides, debating formats is just boring]


LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

It goes without saying the uncertainty over both Harry and Ciarán is a major concern for Leinster, nothing at all against Sam Prendergast but the hope is that at least one will be available for what could be a tricky outing at Welford Road.  Elsewhere it was great to see the likes of Ryan, Lowe and Furlong get through the Aviva match unscathed, though the section at the bottom of the update still looks far from ideal.

Harpin’ matchday 23 v Leicester Tigers

Keenan, Larmour, Ringrose, Henshaw (c), Lowe, Byrne H/Frawley/Prendergast, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, van der Flier, Doris

Kelleher, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan, McGrath, Frawley/Prendergast/Tector, O’Brien T

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

James Ryan: came through the game against Stade Francais with no issues and will be available for selection this week

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Harry Byrne: picked up an ankle injury at training and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on selection

Ciarán Frawley: picked up a rib injury during the Stade Francis game and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on selection

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Michael Milne: picked up a calf injury last week and will be unavailable for selection this week

NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:

Jimmy O’Brien (neck), Martin Moloney (bicep), Alex Soroka (foot), Charlie Ngatai (calf), Cormac Foley (shoulder), Ross Byrne (arm) and Jamie Osborne (shoulder)


LRZ TO USA

News is only breaking as I’m posting this column so haven’t had much time to react with any more than the tweet blow plus the realization that Welsh rugby seems to be in an even worse state than once thought. If they had won a RWC or Grand Slam in the past year or so I wonder if he’d be even considering “doing a Christian Wade”. Interesting POV from Harpin contributor Mark Jackson too.


AIL UPDATE 

The Leinster-heavy Wolfhounds won in Glasgow to keep them at the top of the Celtic Challenge table as the competition goes into a bye weekend.  The Clovers made it another Irish double as they edged the Lightning.

Meanwhile in the men’s AIL the top 5 were kept apart in Round 10 and all won which has of course opened up something of a gap in the middle of the table.   The Dublin derby at Castle Avenue between Clontarf and Lansdowne has to be the pick of round 11.

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WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE

ROUND 3

GLASGOW WARRIORS 12-40 WOLFHOUNDS

CLOVERS 19-17 GWALIA LIGHTNING

BRYTHON THUNDER 17-22 EDINBURGH



ROUND 4

SAT JAN 27

GLASGOW WARRIORS V CLOVERS

WOLFHOUNDS V BRYTHON THUNDER

SUN JAN 28

GWALIA LIGHTNING V EDINBURGH


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 10

LANSDOWNE 30-26 UCD

BALLYNAHINCH 36-10 CITY OF ARMAGH

SHANNON 20-24 CLONTARF

TERENURE 26-17 DUBLIN UNIV

CORK CON 23-13 YOUNG MUNSTER



ROUND 11

SAT DEC 23

CITY OF ARMAGH V TERENURE

CLONTARF V LANSDOWNE

TRINITY V SHANNON 

UCD V CORK CON

YOUNG MUNSTER V BALLYNAHINCH 


CHALLENGE CUP UPDATE

No second win for Black Lion yet and it looks like they’ll need to beat Clérmont in round 4 to make the knockout stages but anything is possible.  Gloucester & Montpellier remain the only unbeaten sides with the latter’s trip to Benetton seeming to be the pick of the ties for the next round, unless of course the Top 14 outfit decide their home match against Pau the following weekend is more important, which I have a feeling they will.

ROUND 3

NEWCASTLE 18-57 BENETTON

OSPREYS 25-3 PERPIGNAN

SHARKS 38-7 OYONNAX

CLÉRMONT 38-17 SCARLETS

ZEBRE 20-17 DRAGONS

CASTRES 28-6 BLACK LION

EDINBURGH 20-21 GLOUCESTER

MONTPELLIER 13-3 LIONS

CHEETAHS 20-33 PAU



ROUND 4

FRI JAN 19

GLOUCESTER V CASTRES

SCARLETS V EDINBURGH

SAT JAN 20

BLACK LION V CLÉRMONT

PAU V ZEBRE

OYONNAX V CHEETAHS

BENETTON V MONTPELLIER

SUN JAN 21

PERPIGNAN V NEWC ASTLE

LIONS V OSPREYS

DRAGONS V SHARKS


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

No URC matches for a few weeks but given I’m still top of the league I don’t mind if I keep publishing the table any chance I get!!!


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Next up for us is of course Leinster’s trip to Leicester next weekend, Kino will join me for a preview on Friday then the wrap pod will be recorded Sunday evening.  Keep up with all the latest happenings on our social media channels and please help us by commenting, liking, sharing & subscribing wherever you can.

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Jan 10


On this week’s column…

🏉 FRONT FIVE

🏉 NEW WRAP UNWRAPPED

🏉 HARPIN ON…BEST VID OF 2023

🏉 SENSIBLE V SILLY TIKTOK

🏉 LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

🏉 THE MIDDLE AISLE

🏉 UPDATES [Incl 🔝🐱🐴, Prem & AIL] 


FRONT FIVE

A selection of five eye-catching egg-chasing quotes & links from around the ruggersphere.

If it wasn’t for O’Mahony’s age profile and rumours of a departure, they would be neck and neck in the race; but you would have to favour the lanky Leinster lock to pip it at the death” 
Farrell’s New Year Headache is Selecting A New Captain
Caolán Scully – CaolánSRugby
“It is understood an agreement has been reached in principle, with a final green light awaited.”
Ireland’s Six Nations jerseys set to feature player names
RTÉ.ie
“He was such an influencer in that regard, mixing immaculate ball skills with granite defence. Rugby had never seen a full-back like him.” 
My Lions team-mate JPR was the best full-back the game has ever seen – full stop
Ian McGeechan – Irish Independent (via Daily Telegraph)
“The more people think it’s acceptable to make a derogatory comment…on social media or electronically, I think people think it’s also OK to say it in person.” 
RFU increases sanction for abuse of officials as survey finds 49% targeted
Gerard Meagher – The Guardian
“…this one feels as though it might be more of a move that will work out for him and his family and from a rugby point of view just to change things up.”
Brian O’Driscoll Has Interesting Theory On Owen Farrell’s Rumoured France Move
Gary Connaughton – Balls.ie

Note – views expressed in “Front Five” links do not necessarily reflect those of HarpinOnRugby


NEW WRAP UNWRAPPED

As you can see above, we’ll be doing things a little differently at Harpin Manor in 2024.  The wrap pod from now on will be just that…a pod wrapping the latest Leinster & Ireland fixture and the “Front Five” feature will return to a written format, appearing at the tart of this column each week.

I started the Front 5 way back in July 2014 and it was a daily post which helped with regular content and also helped keep me up to date with issues outside my chosen remit.  I chose to keep it when I switched to a pod format but I reckon it’s better to launch straight into the subject matter so this seems to be a logical resting place for it, although with more and more publications putting themselves behind firewalls we’ll see how long interesting links remain accessible!


HARPIN’ ON…MOST VIEWED VID OF 2023

We will still have a “bonus clip” segment in our wrap recordings except rather than me choosing a topic I’m going to let my guests harp on things they’d like to discuss.

The videos will remain in this portion of the 80+ column so for this week I will share the video which got by far the most views over the past year, namely my thoughts on the Jean Kleyn situation which I’m assuming got shared around the Springbok fan base.


SENSIBLE V SILLY TIK TOK

Since I’ve had a TikTok account I have seen a lot of different types of post; some I find hilarious but others kind of make me cringe.  One of the latter for me is the “talking to myself” style so to announce the return from my “mini break” I decided to make my own.  You probably think it is just as cringeworthy as any other and I wouldn’t argue as that is kind of the point!  

The scene is meant to be between two versions of myself, a “sensible” one and a “silly” one – and this is actually symbolic of my general approach to content production, part of me wants to be a straight laced presenter while another can’t resist dad jokes and such.  So in a way this format worked, but as I say, it will more than likely be the first AND last time I ever use it.  I’m also a bit annoyed I fucked up the subtitles in a couple of places but let’s just say I’m not losing any sleep!!!

Thanks for all who gave positive feedback anyway though!


LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

“Number of months” are obviously the last words you want to see in an injury update, particularly at the midpoint of a season which could very well mean yours is all but over.  Jimmy O’Brien and Martin Moloney both got that horrible news over the holidays, the former would have of course been heavily involved in the plans for both Leinster and Ireland while Moloney is probably cursing his luck even more as he has yet to appear for Leinster after returning from a previous spell on the sidelines which began just as he broke into the team.

The “no further updates” section is also full of players who would feature heavily in Leinster’s plans but as you can see from the “x” below there was some extra good news announced after the update was published…

Harpin’ matchday 23 v Stade Francais

Keenan, O’Brien T, Ringrose (c), Henshaw, Lowe, Byrne H, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, van der Flier, Doris

Kelleher, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan, McGrath, Frawley, Connors

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

James Ryan: was withdrawn before the game against Ulster Rugby as a precaution and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on selection

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Jimmy O’Brien: has picked up a neck injury and will be unavailable for a number of months

Martin Moloney: has picked up a bicep injury and will be unavailable for a number of months

Alex Soroka: picked up a foot injury in training last week and will be unavailable for selection this week   

NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:

Charlie Ngatai (calf), Cormac Foley (shoulder), Ross Byrne (arm) and Jamie Osborne (shoulder)


THE MIDDLE AISLE

This is the “middle aisle” portion of the column where I will briefly harp on issues of the day, or at least it will be from next week – that TikTok involved so much work I really don’t have the time right now to delve into much else!


URC IRISH SHIELD UPDATE

I know there will be no more URC interpros until May, but I thought I’d post the state of play one last time before that as it is so well poised.

NOV 4 CONNACHT 22-20 ULSTER

NOV 10 ULSTER 21-14 MUNSTER

NOV 25 LEINSTER 21-16 MUNSTER

DEC 2 CONNACHT 22-24 LEINSTER

DEC 22 ULSTER 20-19 CONNACHT

DEC 26 MUNSTER 3-9 LEINSTER

JAN 1 CONNACHT 22-9 MUNSTER

JAN 1 LEINSTER 21-22 ULSTER



MAY 11 MUNSTER V CONNACHT

MAY 18 ULSTER V LEINSTER

MAY 31 LEINSTER V CONNACHT

JUNE 1 MUNSTER V ULSTER


“SVNS” UPDATE

The Sevens circuit is still on a break but I’ll still post the update to remind us all how things stand.  Big year for the Irish programme of course with the Olympics in July also on the schedule.



NEXT IN THE SERIES…

PERTH JAN 26-28

VANCOUVER FEB 23-25

LOS ANGELES MAR 2-3

HONG KONG APR 5-7

SINGAPORE MAY 3-5

MADRID MAY 31-JUN 2


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

From a Leinster POV the drab draw for Stade catches the eye and makes me wonder just how much they will prioritise their Champions Cup campaign over the coming weeks after 2 defeats from 2 and a trip to 2nd place Bayonne next up at home.

Racing held off Castres in a shootout to stay top while La Rochelle moved closer to the playoff spots by winning at Pau, and have to overcome Premiership opposition over the next two weeks if they are to also revive their Champions Cup hopes.

Round 12

SAT JAN 6

PAU 20-29 LA ROCHELLE

PERPIGNAN 27-12 OYONNAX

BORDEAUX 24-23 BAYONNE

STADE FRANCAIS 14-14 CLÉRMONT

RACING 92 34-30 CASTRES

TOULOUSE 45-0 LYON

MONTPELLIER 27-17 TOULON



Round 13

SAT JAN 27

BORDEAUX V STADE FRANCAIS

BAYONNE V OYONNAX

CASTRES V CLÉRMONT

LYON V PERPIGNAN

MONTPELLIER V PAU

TOULON V LA ROCHELLE

SUN JAN 28

RACING 92 V TOULOUSE


PREMIERSHIP UPDATE

Northampton stay top after an impressive win at Exeter, and will probably stay their after the next round with lowly Newcastle coming to Franklin’s Gardens.  Sale fell out of the playoff places after getting done at home by Bristol.  After 11 rounds, 70% of the league have more wins than losses so there are many twists and turns left.

ROUND 11

SALE SHARKS 14-22 BRISTOL BEARS

NEWCASTLE FALCONS 3-24 HARLEQUINS

EXETER 36-42 NORTHAMPTON SAINTS

LEICESTER TIGERS 19-10 SARACENS

BATH 17-10 GLOUCESTER



ROUND 11

FRI JAN 26

HARLEQUINS V LEICESTER TIGERS

SAT JAN 27

NORTHAMPTON SAINTS V NEWCASTLE FALCONS

BRISTOL BEARS V BATH

SARACENS V EXETER CHIEFS

SUN JAN 28

GLOUCESTER V SALE SHARKS


AIL UPDATE 

Both Irish clubs were victorious in round 2 of the Celtic Challenge but the Welsh franchise Gwalia Lightning are top of the table and visit the Clovers next.  The Leinster-heavy Wolfhounds side will aim to keep their 100% record intact when they travel to Glasgow and all games are available to watch for free on RugbyPass.tv

Meanwhile the new competition has put pressure on the Women’s AIL clubs – while there are no league fixtures while it’s on, there is an “All-Ireland Women’s Cup” and Old Belvedere of all teams found themselves unable to put out a side to face Galwegians in Round 1 and had to concede the match points.

I like to consider myself an ally to those pushing for the IRFU bringing the standards up to where they should be but in this one case I’m not sure it really counts as another stick to beat them with.  The Celtic Challenge seems to be a net positive and given it has to be run in conjunction with other unions, there was always going to be a chance it would affect the clubs.  Last year, the complaints were that the clubs didn’t have enough matches (and this was correct as the AIL was done and dusted by Christmas) so while the Belvo concession clearly demonstrates there is still a long way to go, I’d still hope at least we’re heading in a decent general direction.

Meanwhile the men’s AIL is back this week while the Bateman Cup final was retained by Terenure (who had arguably their best social media team announcement yet see below) after they overcame Young Munster and with lowly Trinity visiting Lakelands next in the league, they have every chance to climb further.  

Ballynahinch will need another win over their Ulster rivals City of Armagh to stay in touch with the top four while leaders Clontarf make the trip to Shannon.

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WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE

ROUND 2

EDINBURGH 17-27 WOLFHOUNDS

CLOVERS 20-5 BRYTHON THUNDER

GWALIA LIGHTNING 36-19 GLASGOW WARRIORS



ROUND 3

SAT JAN 13

GLASGOW WARRIORS V WOLFHOUNDS

SUN JAN 14

CLOVERS V GWALIA LIGHTNING

BRYTHON THUNDER V EDINBURGH

WOMEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS V BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE V RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS V UL BOHS

WICKLOW V BELVO


MEN’S AIL

BATEMAN CUP FINAL

TERENURE 22-15 YOUNG MUNSTER



ROUND 10

FRI JAN 12

LANSDOWNE V UCD

SAT DEC 16

BALLYNAHINCH V CITY OF ARMAGH

SHANNON V CLONTARF

TERENURE V DUBLIN UNIV

CORK CON V YOUNG MUNSTER



CHALLENGE CUP UPDATE

Not many eyes in the wider rugby world fall on the Challenge Cup but those that do will no doubt be on Black Lion’s progress…the 5 match points they already have could well be enough to see them into the knockouts but who’s to say they won’t get more?  This weekend they go to Castres who could well be putting more focus on their domestic standing.



ROUND 3

FRI JAN 12

NEWCASTLE V BENETTON

SAT JAN 13

OSPREYS V PERPIGNAN

SHARKS V OYONNAX

CLÉRMONT V SCARLETS

ZEBRE V DRAGONS

CASTRES V BLACK LION

EDINBURGH V GLOUCESTER

MONTPELLIER V LIONS

SUN JAN 14

CHEETAHS V PAU


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Just the one URC match last weekend and the only HPL combatants to predict that the Lions would win at the Sharks were Kristian, who leapfrogged Kino into 3rd, and…wait for it…KEEGO!!! Still can’t see him making up the gap to avoid keeping the Jersey of Shame though, even if we aren’t quite yet at the halfway stage of the season.

I’m considering adding a “cup competition” to the HPL starting in Round 10 but I’ll let you know when it gets closer to the time.


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Right that’s it for now, great to be back to whatever “normal” is.  The Rugby on TV feature returns as it’s regular stand alone post on Thursday, then Keego will join me for Friday’s preview of the visit of Stade while our new-look wrap pod will feature Tom & Conor recording on Sunday evening.

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Jan 4


WRAP OF A WRAP

As pointed out in the social media posts leading readers here, this is the first of two 80+ columns to bookend a mini-break from content-producing here at Harpin Manor what with the URC taking this coming weekend off.

Our schedule was thrown out of whack by the holiday period but for the most part we gave Leinster’s interpros the full Harpin treatment although Keego swapped from the previews to the wraps with both Jay Long and Conor Cronin doing top work stepping in for the preview shows.

If you didn’t catch the Ulster wrap pod itself, here’s a link to Spotify and we’re also on Apple and most major platforms.


HARPIN’ ON…LOOKING AHEAD TO 2024

Last week’s bonus clip was a look back to 2023 so it made sense to switch to crystal ball mode for the year ahead this time around. Keego & myself offered suggestions as to what might happen as well as outlining what rugby is in store for both Leinster & Ireland.


LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

It’s very possible we won’t get a new update until next week’s column but I will still have a go at selecting a team for the Stade match based on the info I have.

Harpin’ matchday 23 v Stade Francais

Keenan, O’Brien J, Ringrose, Henshaw (c), Lowe, Byrne H, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, van der Flier, Doris

Kelleher, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan, McGrath, Frawley, Connors

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley


UPCOMING RUGBY ON IRISH TV 

We normally do this as a separate post but like last week I’ll include it here.  I can’t find any 🔝🐱🐴 , normally it’s on Premier Sports Ireland but they seem to be concentrating on the FA Cup – I’ll update if anything shows up.

FRIDAY JANUARY 5

7:45PM – SALE SHARKS V BRISTOL BEARS – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

7:45PM – NEWCASTLE v HARLEQUINS – PREMIERSHIP – PR.TV*

SATURDAY JANUARY 6

2PM – EDINBURGH V WOLFHOUNDS – WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE – RUGBYPASS.TV

2:15PM – TERENURE V YOUNG MUNSTER – BATEMAN CUP FINAL – IRISH RUGBY YOUTUBE

2:30PM – CLOVERS V BRYTHON THUNDER – WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE – RUGBYPASS.TV

3PM – SHARKS V LIONS – URC – URC.TV*

3PM – EXETER V NORTHAMPTON – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS EXTRA

3:05PM – LEICESTER TIGERS V SARACENS – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

SUNDAY, JANUARY 7

12:30PM – EXETER CHIEFS V EALING TRAILFINDERS – WOMEN’S PREM – TNT SPORTS 1

1:30PM – GWALIA LIGHTNING V GLASGOW WARRIORS – WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE – RUGBYPASS.TV

3PM – BATH V GLOUCESTER – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1


URC IRISH SHIELD UPDATE

Obviously Ulster’s win at the RDS threw the race for the shield wide open with the May 18 rematch in the Kingspan looking like it’s going to be the decider. I’m also still amazed how close all the matches have been – if it wasn’t for a last-gasp interception try at the Sportsground, all 8 matches so far will have been decided by 7pts or less.

NOV 4 CONNACHT 22-20 ULSTER

NOV 10 ULSTER 21-14 MUNSTER

NOV 25 LEINSTER 21-16 MUNSTER

DEC 2 CONNACHT 22-24 LEINSTER

DEC 22 ULSTER 20-19 CONNACHT

DEC 26 MUNSTER 3-9 LEINSTER

JAN 1 CONNACHT 22-9 MUNSTER

JAN 1 LEINSTER 21-22 ULSTER



MAY 11 MUNSTER V CONNACHT

MAY 18 ULSTER V LEINSTER

MAY 31 LEINSTER V CONNACHT

JUNE 1 MUNSTER V ULSTER


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

Racing slipped up getting just a losing BP at lowly Bayonne yet still remain top while Leinster’s next opposition Stade F came away from Toulon with nothing although despite being 5th they’re still within striking distance of their Parisian rivals. Meanwhile La Rochelle’s relatively comfortable dispatching of Toulouse had me wondering if the LAR>LEI>TLS>LAR cycle has finally been broken! ROGs lot can get even closer to the top six with a win at Pau in the next round.

Round 11

OYONNAX 34-13 PAU

CLÉRMONT 35-40 BORDEAUX

LYON 20-18 MONTPELLIER

BAYONNE 27-23 RACING 92

TOULON 19-5 STADE FRANCAIS

LA ROCHELLE 29-8 TOULOUSE

CASTRES 13-17 PERPIGNAN



Round 12

SAT JAN 6

PAU V LA ROCHELLE

PERPIGNAN V OYONNAX

BORDEAUX V BAYONNE

STADE FRANCAIS V CLÉRMONT

RACING 92 V CASTRES

TOULOUSE V LYON

SUN JAN 7

MONTPELLIER V TOULON


PREMIERSHIP UPDATE

Not often the top team in all three main Euro domestic leagues lose in the same weekend, however Sale were the only one to see themselves knocked off their perch as defeat to Northampton moved the Saints up to the summit with Exeter climbing to second.  Leicester Tigers scoffed a decent home win over Bath although their schedule doesn’t get much easier with just the 9 Champions Cup between their next three opponents Saracens, La Rochelle and of course Leinster.

ROUND 10

BRISTOL 14-24 EXETER

SARACENS 37-19 NEWCASTLE

NORTHAMPTON 21-17 SALE SHARKS

HARLEQUINS 32-26 GLOUCESTER

LEICESTER TIGERS 35-22 BATH



ROUND 11

FRI JAN 5

SALE SHARKS V BRISTOL BEARS

NEWCASTLE FALCONS V HARLEQUINS

SAT JAN 6

EXETER V NORTHAMPTON SAINTS

LEICESTER TIGERS V SARACENS

SUN JAN 7

BATH V GLOUCESTER


AIL UPDATE 

No action in the AIL but the women’s Celtic Challenge did kick off with the two newly-created Irish teams Wolfhounds & Clovers meeting at Musgrave Park. The Leinster/Ulster based side overturned a halftime deficit to finish on top, round 2 is this coming weekend all the matches will be streamed live on RugbyPass.tv the links are in the TV section further up the page.

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WOMEN’S CELTIC CHALLENGE

ROUND 1

WOLFHOUNDS 21-15 CLOVERS

EDINBURGH 28-12 GLASGOW

BRYTHON THUNDER 5-20 GWALIA LIGHTNING



ROUND 2

SAT JAN 6

EDINBURGH V WOLFHOUNDS

CLOVERS V BRYTHON THUNDER

SUN JAN 7

GWALIA LIGHTNING V GLASGOW WARRIORS

WOMEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS V BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE V RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS V UL BOHS

WICKLOW V BELVO


MEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



ROUND 10

FRI JAN 12

LANSDOWNE V UCD

SAT DEC 16

BALLYNAHINCH V CITY OF ARMAGH

SHANNON V CLONTARF

TERENURE V DUBLIN UNIV

CORK CON V YOUNG MUNSTER


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

The Welsh regions have been good to me in this round but still my lead at the top has been whittled down to just 1.5pts with a group forming right down to 6th ready to pounce.  Round 9 is unusual as it includes two extra fixtures for the Lions in January so we’ll see how the lads get on remembering their picks!  If they’re lucky I might even remind them in the WhatsApp group…


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

We’re going to take full advantage of the URC off week here at Harpin Manor to do absolutely NOTHING content-related for a few days.  The plan is to be back with another 80+ column which will be back on it’s regular day, which I guess means I’ll actually see you next Tuesday!!! 😜

As ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Dec 29 & Rugby on TV Dec 29-31


WRAP OF A WRAP

Keego usually does the previews so just to mix things up I asked him to do the wraps over Christmas with a much simpler format than usual we essentially just harped on the match itself though despite the low scoring there was much to go over. 

If you didn’t catch the wrap pod itself, here’s a link to Spotify and we’re also on Apple and most major platforms.


HARPIN’ ON…LEINSTER & IRELAND 2023

For the bonus clip myself & Keego went back over the rollercoaster of results from the year.


THE HARPIN ‘WITHOUT WHOM’ DEPARTMENT

As I say in the TikTok, thanking my contributors is the very, very least I can do.  To a man they all go above and beyond preparing for our chats as well as giving up their time to actually record them.  Here is the actual list of 2023 caps…

Keego 31 

Tom Coleman 20 

Conor Cronin 20 

Mark Jackson 18 

RugbyKino 15 

Rich Mifsud 11

Jay Long 8

Ciarán Duffy 5

Nathan Johns 3

Stephen Murphy 2

Pádraig Kelly 2

Peter Lockhart 2

Francisco Isaac 1

Ian Frizzell 1

Justin Middleton 1

Bryan Moylett 1

Ball handling Hooker 1

Thala Msutu 1

Also my apologies for Thala Msutu for pronouncing his name wrong in the video!

@harpinonrugby

Many many thanks to all the Harpin contributors throughout 2023, have a safe and happy new year everyone.

♬ original sound – Harpinonrugby.com – Harpinonrugby.com

LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

Fingers crossed the JGP injury wasnt too bad sounded like a precaution.  That really does lookk like the lightest injury update we have seen in quite a while although I reckon a good few will still be held back for the visit of Ulster with Europe & 6N on the horizon, although there is an off week to come which will help.

Normally I post a predicted team here but since this is posting on Friday rather than the usual Tuesday I can go one better by posting the team itself.



Available for Selection:

Luke McGrath: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after returning from a knee injury

Harry Byrne: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after returning from the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

John McKee: has returned to full training after recovering from a hamstring injury

Further Assessment Required:

Jamison Gibson-Park: was withdrawn before the game against Munster Rugby as a precaution and will be further assessed this week

No Further Updates:

Charlie Ngatai (calf), Cormac Foley (shoulder), Ross Byrne (arm) and Jamie Osborne (shoulder)


UPCOMING RUGBY ON IRISH TV 

We normally do this as a separate post but just this once I’ll include it here.

FRIDAY DECEMBER 29

4PM – WOLFHOUNDS V CLOVERS – CELTIC CHALLENGE – RUGBYPASS.TV

7:45PM – BRISTOL BEARS V EXETER – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

8PM – CLÉRMONT V BORDEAUX – 🔝🐱🐴 – PREMIER SPORTS 1

SATURDAY DECEMBER 30

12PM – EDINBURGH V GLASGOW WARRIORS – CELTIC CHALLENGE – RUGBYPASS.TV

1:30PM – BENETTON V ZEBRE – URC – PREMIER SPORTS 2, – URC.TV*

2:30PM – HARLEQUINS V GLOUCESTER – WOMEN’S PREM – TNT SPORTS 2

3PM – EDINBURGH V GLASGOW WARRIORS – URC – PREMIER SPORTS 2, URC.TV*

3PM – SARACENS V NEWCASTLE – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS EXTRA

3:05PM – NORTHAMPTON V SALE SHARKS – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

5PM – STORMERS V SHARKS – URC – PREMIER SPORTS 2, URC.TV*

5:15PM – RGC1404 V CARDIFF – WELSH PREM – S4C

5:30PM – HARLEQUINS V GLOUCESTER – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

6PM – TOULON V STADE FRANCAIS – 🔝🐱🐴 – PREMIER SPORTS 2

8PM – LA ROCHELLE V TOULOUSE – 🔝🐱🐴 – PREMIER SPORTS 1

SUNDAY DECEMBER 31

1PM – CASTRES V PERPIGNAN – 🔝🐱🐴 – PREMIER SPORTS 1

3PM – LEICESTER TIGERS V BATH – PREMIERSHIP – TNT SPORTS 1

MONDAY JANUARY 1

3PM – CONNACHT V MUNSTER – URC – TG4, PREMIER SPORTS 1,  URC.TV*

3PM – OSPREYS V CARDIFF – URC – BBC1 WALES, PREMIER SPORTS 2,  URC.TV*

5:15PM – DRAGONS V SCARLETS – URC – S4C, PREMIER SPORTS 1,  URC.TV*

5:15PM – LEINSTER V ULSTER – URC – RTÉ2, PREMIER SPORTS 2.


URC IRISH SHIELD UPDATE

Obviously the Leinster fan in me wants to point to the top of this table but actually I’d rather draw attention to the full collection of results between the provinces so far, all of which have been decided by 7 points or less which speaks volumes.  Leinster v Ulster on New Year’s Day will obviously go a long way towards deciding the destination of the shield.

NOV 4 CONNACHT 22-20 ULSTER

NOV 10 ULSTER 21-14 MUNSTER

NOV 25 LEINSTER 21-16 MUNSTER

DEC 2 CONNACHT 22-24 LEINSTER

DEC 22 ULSTER 20-19 CONNACHT

DEC 26 MUNSTER 3-9 LEINSTER



JAN 1 CONNACHT V MUNSTER

JAN 1 LEINSTER V ULSTER

MAY 11 MUNSTER V CONNACHT

MAY 18 ULSTER V LEINSTER

MAY 31 LEINSTER V CONNACHT

JUNE 1 MUNSTER V ULSTER


🔝🐱🐴 UPDATE

I suppose it’s natural these days for a Leinster fan to be drawn to La Rochelle in this portion for all the obvious reasons but even without that their Round 10 defeat to Stade (whom we play next in Europe) plus their Round 11 date with Toulouse (repeat of last year’s Brennus decider) are easily the standout matches.  Racing still top the league after a 60-burger on Oyonnax.

Round 10

PERPIGNAN 36-10 BAYONNE

BORDEAUX 46-10 LYON

MONTPELLIER 30-21 CASTRES

RACING 92 66-10 OYONNAX

PAU 22-11 CLÉRMONT

STADE FRANCAIS 18-13 LA ROCHELLE

TOULOUSE 25-17 TOULON



Round 11

FRI DEC 29

OYONNAX V PAU

CLÉRMONT V BORDEAUX

SAT DEC 30

LYON V MONTPELLIER

BAYONNE V RACING 92

TOULON V STADE FRANCAIS

LA ROCHELLE V TOULOUSE

CASTRES V PERPIGNAN


PREMIERSHIP UPDATE

Sale Sharks bounced back from their Dublin defeat to overcome Sarries and they have the most wins at the halfway stage of the Premiership but Bath pip them to top spot at this stage thanks to their bonus points. Their visit to Leicester will be a tricky one in round 10 while there’s a 3rd v 2nd clash at Franklins Gardens.

ROUND 9

NEWCASTLE 13-21 BRISTOL

SALE SHARKS 22-20 SARACENS

EXETER 29-10 LEICESTER

GLOUCESTER 29-31 NORTHAMPTON

BATH 25-17 HARLEQUINS



ROUND 10

FRI DEC 29

BRISTOL V EXETER

SAT DEC 30

SARACENS V NEWCASTLE

NORTHAMPTON V SALE SHARKS

HARLEQUINS V GLOUCESTER

SUN DEC 31

LEICESTER TIGERS V BATH


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

I was kicking myself after missing my prediction for the Zebre v Benetton match (or as we call it in our Harpin WhatsApp group “doing a Keego”) but I recovered pretty well the rest of the round to stretch my lead at the top of the HPL.  True story of the round was Kristian Ross who got the yellow cap to leap frog Conor and Kino into 2nd.


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

That’s it for 2023, next there’s the Ulster preview which will be ready by Saturday morning, the wrap pod will record Tuesday night and with an off week to follow we’ll be taking things easy-ish though keep up with our usual social media channels we’ll be doing the odd post here and there.

And as ever, be sure to enjoy your seasonal rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Dec 19


WRAP OF A WRAP

First things first….not one but TWO Harpin contributors have had milestone birthdays in the last week, best wishes to both Tom Coleman and Conor Cronin I hope the celebrations went well!

Well that match certainly didn’t go like we thought it would, did it?  On the preview with Keego, we were trying to be nice about the Sale lineup but truth be told it really did look like a comprehensive Leinster win was on the cards but although we did get the bonus point win, this Sale squad really put it to us and both Tom and Kino made this point perfectly clear as they wrapped the 80 minutes.

If you didn’t catch the wrap pod itself, here’s a link to Spotify and we’re also on Apple and most major platforms.


HARPIN’ ON…ANDY FARRELL APPRECIATION

After skipping the bonus clip the previous week, we recorded one to honour Andy Farrell’s much-deserved gong at the RTÉ Sports Awards.


CHALLENGES FACING IRISH WOMEN’S RUGBY

It’s pretty clear the point I’m making with the editing wizardry in the TikTok below but I’m still actually saying stuff in the speeded up bits so here is a transcript…

  1. CLUB RUGBY We start with club rugby. The principal club competition is of course the Women’s AIL which for the past couple of seasons has consisted of a ringfenced top division of 9 clubs.  Last year the league was done and dusted by this stage of the season in mid-December so now they’ve increased it to a home and away schedule extending the regular season to April.  Problems still remain at this level however and just one look at the league table shows that in reality there are only four clubs in real contention for the title, with the other five sometimes struggling to put a team out like Wicklow in the last round who had to concede a walkover due to injuries, something that really should not be happening at senior level, and just to be perfectly clear, I certainly would not lay a whole lot of blame at the door of the club in question.
  1. INTERPROS Next we have the interprovincial championship, where the women’s game surely has much scope to resonate with Irish rugby fans already well used to cheering for one of the four provinces.  The problem with this level is that like the clubs they also are badly in need of more games and this season’s title had already been won by Leinster before the men’s World Cup had even kicked off.
  1. THE CELTIC CHALLENGE Then we have the Celtic Challenge, a new competition along the lines of the original men’s Celtic League with teams from Ireland Scotland and Wales competing for the prize.  They started last season with one team from each nation and have expanded to two each this year with Ireland fielding newly formed clubs called the Clovers who represent Munster and Connacht, and the Wolfhounds who will draw players from Leinster and Ulster and the two will meet each other in the opening round at Musgrave Park on December 29.  It would of course be awesome for this level to succeed but from an Irish perspective I can’t really see these manufactured teams capturing much attention, so hopefully it won’t be long before all four provinces can afford to field teams and the competition can find a sustainable place on the rugby calendar.
  1. SEVENS This brings us to sevens rugby, and this year the World Series has rebranded itself to make sure both men and women play the same amount of rugby at all of the events.  However for the Irish programme there is still a profound difference between the genders in that the men can field a dedicated sevens squad while the women need to draw many of the best players out of the XVs pool, a decision which has certainly brought rewards like qualification for the Paris Olympics, but also which can’t avoid hurting the chances for the full test team in the process, for example the Hong Kong Sevens event takes place right in the middle of the Women’s Six Nations.
  1. TEST RUGBY Which of course brings us to the test team itself.  Whatever we say about the levels below, if there is to be significant fan engagement it is critical that the Irish women’s programme finds a way to drastically improve on their disastrous last place finish in the 2023 Six Nations.  Victory in the 3rd tier of the new WXV competition is definitely a start but there is still a long way to go, and like I already said losing key players like Beibhinn Parsons to the sevens programme certainly doesn’t help, nor does a reliance solely on players who are able to be on call for training and such in and around the greater Dublin area.  It surely would be much easier to attract our top female athletes to the sport if there were at the very least proper training bases at each of the four provinces.
  1. WHAT CAN FANS DO Finally, there’s the issue of what we can do as fans.  At a practical level offering financial or volunteer support to your local club is one of the best ways to help out but actual engagement with the top teams is also critical.  Ironically one of the most important things you can do in that regard is not listen to me!  While we’d encourage you to keep up with the IRFU site for latest news and fixtures and such, I’d also suggest following dedicated websites like Scrumqueens and twitter accounts like @IrishWomens and @JC200022 to get a sense of what more needs to be done.
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LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

Update didn’t arrive until Wednesday afternoon this week, it looks like the news on Charlie Ngatai isn’t as bad as we first feared, fingers crossed. As you can see from my 23 I’m holding out hope we’ll see James Lowe back for the trip to Thomond but he can of course take as long as he feels he needs…


Harpin’ matchday 23 v Munster

Larmour, O’Brien T, Turner, Henshaw, Russell, Prendergast, McGrath

Healy, Kelleher, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Deeny, Conan, Penny (c), Deegan

Barron, Boyle, Clarkson, Ryan, Culhane, Murphy, Tector, Lowe.

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley


INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Luke McGrath: has returned to full training after returning from a knee injury

Tommy O’Brien: has returned to full training after returning from an ankle injury

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Harry Byrne: will be further assessed this week as part of the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

Jason Jenkins: was withdrawn at half-time against Sale Sharks with a minor back issue and will be further assessed this week

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Charlie Ngatai: picked up a calf injury against Sale Sharks and will be unavailable for selection this week

NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:

Cormac Foley (shoulder), Ross Byrne (arm), Jamie Osborne (shoulder) and John McKee (hamstring)


NO TO CO CAPTAINS

When Leinster are losing there are many who take great pleasure from pointing out what we’re doing wrong, but when that stick isn’t there to beat us with, the scramble to find an alternative can be entertainment in itself.  

This latest one is more twig than stick but still it has to be said that the “co-captain” experiment hasn’t gotten off to an ideal start at the province, and judging by the feedback from refs in the opening two weeks in Europe, we might have to rethink the  policy very soon.

My completely hot take is that this was a decision made to appease their respective agents?  Having the Leinster captain on your books would be quite the feather in the cap so (remember I have ZERO info on this, all speculation) I can imagine a situation where pressure is exerted from representatives for both players with this being a compromise.  If so, or indeed whatever led to the decision, here’s hoping they can quickly go back to the drawing board because one captain at a time is definitely the way to go.


SEXTON AS COACH

Really mischievous headline here “IRFU Don’t Rule Out Possible Ireland Return For Johnny Sexton” and I suppose I can’t blame the media for cranking up the old outrage-baiting headline generator for this one.  And to be honest, if anyone who has ever played the game could make the difficult transition from player to coach work quickly, it’s Johnny since I’d argue that he has essentially been an extra coach most his career.  But even with that, I very much doubt there’s much chance of him going straight to the Irish job replacing Mike Catt.  Right now I reckon Mike Prendergast looks a good fit FWIW.


LOS PUMAS TURN TO DR. PHIL 


Monday was a “fast news day” for sure, including the announcement that Felipe Contepomi had been appointed to head coach of the Pumas, which of course means it’s more than likely he’ll be leading them when they come to play the Lions at the Aviva Stadium in 2025.  It goes without saying that we wish him every success unless it’s against us at a World Cup!!!!


TOP SHELF IRISH WHISKEY

Have to admit I didn’t even know this was on the cards but I’m delighted to learn that Jamison Gibson-Park has earned his Irish citizenship, great news for him, and of course for both Leinster & Ireland rugby.   I always got the sense when he started playing at the province that he wasn’t wild about the kicking game and when Andy Farrell opted for a more pass-focused high-tempo style that was when he came into his own and fingers crossed he has many seasons left to do it.


URC IRISH SHIELD UPDATE

No harm leaving this in the column with the interpros on the horizon…

NOV 4 CONNACHT 22-20 ULSTER

NOV 10 ULSTER 21-14 MUNSTER

NOV 25 LEINSTER 21-16 MUNSTER

DEC 2 CONNACHT 22-24 LEINSTER



DEC 22 ULSTER V CONNACHT

DEC 26 MUNSTER V LEINSTER

JAN 1 CONNACHT V MUNSTER

JAN 1 LEINSTER V ULSTER

MAY 11 MUNSTER V CONNACHT

MAY 18 ULSTER V LEINSTER

MAY 31 LEINSTER V CONNACHT

JUNE 1 MUNSTER V ULSTER


AIL UPDATE 

No action at AIL level for the women this week, though as you see in the TikTok rnt segment I had a comment or two to make there.

Over on the men’s side there were some close derbies as UCD out scored Lansdowne in a 44-40 shootout at Belfield Bowl and the Cookies edged out Cork Con, and that result allowed Clontarf to extend their lead at the top after dispatching Shannon at Castle Ave.  In the other two local tussles Hinch won at Armagh while Terenure heaped more misery on Trinity.  Division 1A is now at its halfway stage and Round 9 fixtures get reversed for the next round in mid January.

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WOMEN’S AIL

NO MATCHES LAST WEEKEND



Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS V BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE V RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS V UL BOHS

WICKLOW V BELVO


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 9

UCD 44-40 LANSDOWNE

CITY OF ARMAGH 18-29 BALLYNAHINCH

CLONTARF 38-21 SHANNON

DUBLIN UNIV 14-31 TERENURE

YOUNG MUNSTER 22-21 CORK CON



ROUND 10

FRI JAN 12

LANSDOWNE V UCD

SAT DEC 16

BALLYNAHINCH V CITY OF ARMAGH

SHANNON V CLONTARF

TERENURE V DUBLIN UNIV

CORK CON V YOUNG MUNSTER


CHALLENGE CUP UPDATE

Obviously Black Lion stole the headlines in the Challenge Cup but Tom harped on that for the pod.  4 of the 18 teams have gotten off to perfect starts including two from SA, the Lions and the Cheetahs, who overcame the Sharks in the local encounter.   From the Round 3 schedule you’d have to pick out Black Lion who will have no fear travelling to Castres as the home side could well have one eye on their domestic standing, but I also wouldn’t mind checking out Embra v Glaws could be a decent contest.

ROUND 2

SCARLETS 7-23 BLACK LION

GLOUCESTER 28-17 CLÉRMONT

OYONNAX 14-21 ZEBRE

EDINBURGH 34-21 CASTRES

BENETTON 29-7 PERPIGNAN

LIONS 35-13 NEWCASTLE

PAU 24-21 DRAGONS

CHEETAHS 32-29 SHARKS

MONTPELLIER 38-5 OSPREYS



ROUND 3

FRI JAN 12

NEWCASTLE V BENETTON

SAT JAN 13

OSPREYS V PERPIGNAN

SHARKS V OYONNAX

CLÉRMONT V SCARLETS

ZEBRE V DRAGONS

CASTRES V BLACK LION

EDINBURGH V GLOUCESTER

MONTPELLIER V LIONS

SUN JAN 14

CHEETAHS V PAU


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Still in first, so still going to include here.  All will likely change over the festive interpros!!!


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Right – that’s it, will give this column a well earned break until after the holiers.  We will of course be covering Leinster’s matches against Munster & Ulster, stay tuned to the social media channels for more details.

And as ever, be sure to enjoy your seasonal rugby wherever you are.  JLP


80+ column : Dec 13


WRAP OF A WRAP

We had already decided long before kickoff that our wrap pod recording would be moved 24 hours later to Monday evening to allow for maximum time to prepare after the Sunday afternoon fixture, but given the way it worked out we were even more glad of the extra time.

Unfortunately RugbyKino was unable to join us as planned with him having a sore throat but thankfully Tom Coleman was able to come on from the bench to join Rich and as it turned out we had so much to harp on from this epic encounter that I had to completely alter how I present the pod.

Normally we record an extra “bonus clip” on an extra topic but our chat went on so long I decided to ditch it for this week, and when I went to edit I realised that there really wasnt anything worth cutting from what the lads had to so as you can see below the “Front Five” and “Final Thoughts” portions went to our YouTube channel, all to keep the actual wrap pod under an hour, but as ever I reckon it’s all well worth the listen.

If you didn’t catch the wrap pod itself, here’s a link to Spotify and we’re also on Apple and most major platforms.


LEINSTER INJURY UPDATE

Mixed news from the report especially on the dreaded bottom line…we already knew Ross Byrne would be there but seeing Jamie Osborne’s name is also worrying…and also Cormac Foley being out for months is a blow for him and the team, he was progressing really well.

Also any squad would miss names like Conan and Furlong hopefully they are both minor issues while we will probably be without Harry Byrne for the visit of Sale.

On the plus side it’s great to see both Tommy O’Brien and Luke McGrath at least moving their way up the list.

On my selection for Saturday, while I am with what seems to be a majority of Leinster fans who want to see Frawley get a run at 10, I may have put him there in my selection but I still appreciate that if we feel we have to go for a 6/2 bench he may need to be on the bench.

We all of course wish James Lowe to only come back when he’s ready, would love to see him at least at 23 to ease him back in but then again Charlie Ngatai is having an amazing season himself so he makes my 23.


Harpin’ matchday 23 v Sale Sharks

Keenan, Larmour, Ringrose (cc), Henshaw, O’Brien J, Frawley, Gibson-Park.

Porter, Sheehan, Ala’alatoa, McCarthy, Ryan (cc), Baird, van der Flier, Doris.

Kelleher, Healy, Clarkson, Molony, Connors, Murphy, Prendergast, Ngatai

NB : the above matchday 23 is completely from my own mind, I’m certainly not suggesting I have any ITK a la Thornley


INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Michael Milne: has returned to full training after returning from a shoulder injury.

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Jack Conan: will look to increase his training load this week as he returns from a minor injury and will be further assessed later in the week ahead of selection.

Tadhg Furlong: will look to increase his training load this week as he returns from a minor injury and will be further assessed later in the week ahead of selection.

Tommy O’Brien: will look to increase his rehabilitation programme further this week as he nears a return from an ankle injury.

Luke McGrath: will look to increase his rehabilitation programme further this week as he nears a return from a knee injury.

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Cormac Foley: picked up a shoulder injury in training last week and will have a procedure this week. He will be unavailable for selection for the next few months.

Harry Byrne: was withdrawn for a Head Injury Assessment at the weekend and has now entered the Graduated Return to Play Protocols.

NO FURTHER UPDATES ON:

Ross Byrne (arm), Jamie Osborne (shoulder) and John McKee (hamstring).


LIONS – STILL A THING?

Had we done a bonus clip, it was to be all about the Lions, with the panel discussing both the announcement of the famous feline franchise playing the Pumas at the Aviva Stadium and also Gerry Thornley’s article questioning the viability of the whole concept what with concerns over player welfare.

My view is pretty simple – when the matches and tours are on, I love them as a fan of top level rugby.  Who wouldn’t love to see a combined team from four of the Six Nations take on the best of the Southern hemisphere in a test series, and having a test happen in Dublin is long overdue and would be on its own a great occasion for Irish rugby in particular.

However this obviously goes out the window when there’s even a suggestion of too much rugby on the calendar and there’s also my wish for there to be more opportunities for the “Tier 2” nations to play rugby.  And when a Lions squad assembles every four years, it automatically takes FIVE Tier 1 nations out of the equation when it comes to arranging matches and for me if it’s a case of “something has to give”, and I really think it is, then consigning the Lions tours to the history books wouldn’t be the worst thing for the sport.

I’ll look to bring it up in a future pod when I can to try and get some views from other Harpin panellists.


CHAMPIONS CUP FORMAT

No, the headline doesn’t mean I intend to moan about the format, in fact if anything I’m sick of all that moaning.  Actually all I want to do here is point out how the knockout phase is organised for this year’s competition as I only learned it myself since last week’s 80+ column.

As you probably know there are four pools of six with two from each league in each pool and everyone plays four matches, avoiding only the team that comes from the same league.

The top four in each pool go forward to the last 16 and the seedings are very straightforward, the pool winners get 1-4 (ranked by pool performance), runnersup are 5-8, 3rd place teams 9-12 and finally 4th placed teams 13-16.   For the last 16 round, the pairings are set as follows…1v16, 2v15, 3v14, 4v13, 5v12, 6v11, 7v10, 8v9.

What this means is that it is very possible (1 in 4 chance to be precise) that teams from the same pool can meet each other in the last 16.  For example, not completely out of the question that Leinster play La Rochelle again!!!!

This isn’t a new thing by the way…in the format most people wish we could return to, with 6 pools of 4 producing 8 quarterfinallists, it has often happened that one of the two best runnersup faced a team they already faced in the pool phase.

I can’t say I’m a fan of this and would rather they kept the pools apart at least for that first knockout round, but I certainly wouldn’t dwell on it too much since that would itself be moaning!!!  I’ll stick to hoping Leinster get as high a seeding as we can possibly get.


GUINNESS AS WOMEN’S 6N SPONSOR

On the surface this looks like good news, since the women’s game in particular will always need sponsorship, but I still have reservations.

It wasn’t so long ago that the league formerly known as the “Pro12/14” went a long time with having a sponsor before Guinness stepped in at virtually the 11th hour, and the same thing happened to the men’s Six Nations as the famous Irish stout was only announced to be offering its name to the 2019 tournament in December of 2018.  Pretty sure these deals are ideally done and dusted much longer in advance of the competitions kicking off.

This leads me to think that Guinness may well be something of a “sponsor of last resort” for rugby and if so this could mean that it may not be as lucrative for the competition as it could be.  I really, really hope I’m wrong but it does seem to make sense that a deal negotiated with a different company would bear more fruit.


ANOTHER MAJOR LEAGUE RUGBY FOLDS 

Absolutely devastating news from the USA, with Toronto Arrows already pulling out of Major League Rugby for 2024, now even New York can’t hold down a team with the Ironworkers also folding.  With the Miami Sharks joining this season, that leaves them with just ten for this season and surely there must be more teams struggling as well.

It’s very important for the sport that they get a foothold in the US, but it really looks like trying to model their product on the MLS isn’t the way to go, which is ironic because the reason it took soccer so long to take off over there was that they originally modelled themselves too much on the “established” American sports.  

Looks like rugby there is going to have to find its own way forward.

UPDATE – since publishing I have learned that the league plans to expand into Mexico for 2025. Sounds like the plans aren’t finalised so I guess they figured they needed to get this news out there asap to push back on all the Toronto/NY negativity. Interesting move with Mexico hardly a rugby hotbed but we’ll see how it pans out.


EDDIE JONES

I really, really, REALLY don’t want to devote too many words to this guy, and Paul Williams sums up my feeling pretty well in the tweet below.  But one thing I will say is that as much as I say in the previous segment how much I want the game to flourish in the USA, the same goes for Japan.  We really need a strong foothold in both markets.  Sadly now I can’t help but wish for EJ to be a flop out there which if it were to happen would probably set the game back further.


URC IRISH SHIELD UPDATE

Now for the “Update” portion of the column and while there were obviously no URC games to update this table I might as well leave it here anyway.

NOV 4 CONNACHT 22-20 ULSTER

NOV 10 ULSTER 21-14 MUNSTER

NOV 25 LEINSTER 21-16 MUNSTER

DEC 2 CONNACHT 22-24 LEINSTER



DEC 22 ULSTER V CONNACHT

DEC 26 MUNSTER V LEINSTER

JAN 1 CONNACHT V MUNSTER

JAN 1 LEINSTER V ULSTER

MAY 11 MUNSTER V CONNACHT

MAY 18 ULSTER V LEINSTER

MAY 31 LEINSTER V CONNACHT

JUNE 1 MUNSTER V ULSTER


“SVNS” UPDATE

For the second week in a row I’m simply going to paste in my copy from the pod (actually it’s in the first YouTube clip above) as it pretty much says all I have to say on the sevens…

I’ll start with the women – because while a seventh place finish is one down from the previous weekend in Dubai, there were still some fine performances, arguably the best of which was one they lost against Australia, as a brace of Bebhinn Parsons tries kept the eventual tournament winners honest and 14-24 was a very respectable result all things considered.  They also ended the competition on a high defeating Great Britain avenging an earlier defeat in the pool stages to finish 7th which is also where they sit in the overall standings after two rounds.

Meanwhile the men had a better time of it – any Irish rugby team defeating New Zealand in a quarterfinal would make headlines but this was also not only our first ever win over them in 7s but also the first time they had lost at this stage of the competition since 2015.  And it’s not like it was a fluke, not only was it a comprehensive 36-21 victory that included a Terry Kennedy hat-trick, but it came after an equally impressive win over the hosts at the end of Day 1, with the Irish men often deploying absolutely suffocating defensive sets that made it look like we had 15 out there not 7.  

However those levels of physicality can take their toll and having reached the final four we finally came unstuck against eventual tournament winners Argentina in the semifinals and also against Fiji in the playoff which meant a fourth place finish that keeps us in 5th on the series table.

I said last week both squads can definitely get higher finishes and I still believe this to be the case.  The series now moves on to Perth for a 3-day event from January 26th to 28th, make a note in your diaries and try to catch as much of the action as you can it is generally streamed live for free on rugbypass.tv

CAPE TOWN 7s

#IRLW7s

POOL

IRELAND 39-14 BRAZIL

IRELAND 15-19 GREAT BRITAIN

IRELAND 7-33 NEW ZEALAND

QF

IRELAND 14-24 AUSTRALIA

7TH PLACE PLAYOFF

IRELAND 17-5 GREAT BRITAIN



#IRLM7s

POOL

IRELAND 31-0 USA

IRELAND 19-14 GREAT BRITAIN

IRELAND 14-12 SOUTH AFRICA

QF

IRELAND 36-21 NEW ZEALAND

SF

IRELAND 19-26 ARGENTINA

3RD PLACE PLAYOFF

IRELAND 7-14 FIJI


NEXT IN THE SERIES…

PERTH JAN 26-28

VANCOUVER FEB 23-25

LOS ANGELES MAR 2-3

HONG KONG APR 5-7

SINGAPORE MAY 3-5

MADRID MAY 31-JUN 2


AIL UPDATE 

“Match conceded by Wicklow due to injuries” is not a sentence we want to see in any level of senior rugby in 2023, especially when the top league in the country has only 9 teams so for any to be unable to put a matchday squad together it shows the game is still in major trouble.

And going on history, the 28-0 scoreline which was awarded to league leaders UL Bohs was something of a blessing for Wicklow – I have to admit I winced before looking at the scoreline and would not have blinked if it was in triple figures.  That’s in no way an indictment of the rugby club itself by the way, rather the continued poor investment in the club game in general.

The league may have nine clubs officially, but actually there are only four with any real chance of winning it with three of them based in Dublin and surely there must be more talent available across the island that we can get playing the sport on a regular basis.

The league now takes a break until February 10, while in the meantime there will be the new “Celtic Challenge” competition including two new Irish franchises, the Wolfhounds and the Clovers who will play each other in Round 1 on December 29.

Meanwhile on the men’s side of things, Clontarf earned a win away to Lansdowne in round 8 to stay top while Cork Con stayed in touch by defeating UCD.  Champions Terenure continued their recent form by sneaking into the top 4 thanks to a 29-17 win over City of Armagh, who have an Ulster derby to look forward to next weekend as they host Ballynahinch, although the tie of the round would seem to be the all Munster affair when Young Munsters host Cork Con. 

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WOMEN’S AIL

Round 10

SAT DEC 9

GALWEGIANS 10-34 COOKE

BELVO 37-14 BLACKROCK

RAILWAY UNION 88-19 SUTTONIANS

[WICKLOW 0-28 UL BOHS]

Match conceded by Wicklow due to injuries.

Five match points awarded to UL Bohemians along with a 28-0 scoreline

Wicklow are deducted five points for conceding



Round 11

SAT FEB 10

SUTTONIANS V BALLINCOLLIG

COOKE V RAILWAY UNION

GALWEGIANS V UL BOHS

WICKLOW V BELVO


MEN’S AIL

ROUND 8

BALLYNAHINCH 13-16 YOUNG MUNSTER

CORK CON 38-25 UCD

LANSDOWNE 27-31 CLONTARF

SHANNON 14-13 DUBLIN UNIV

TERENURE 29-17 CITY OF ARMAGH



ROUND 9

FRI DEC 15

UCD V LANSDOWNE

SAT DEC 16

CITY OF ARMAGH V BALLYNAHINCH

CLONTARF V SHANNON

DUBLIN UNIV V TERENURE

YOUNG MUNSTER V CORK CON


CHALLENGE CUP UPDATE

All Irish provinces may be in the main competition but the Challenge Cup is still worth updating here, partly because it’s possible a province or two may end up dropping down into its knockout stage, but also as there are some interesting entrants in this years pool stage, not least of which is Black Lion from Georgia.

It wasn’t the worst debut for them either as although they lost to Premiership side Gloucester, it was only by a respectable 10-15 result to give them their first match point in European rugby.  Elsewhere there were wins for the Sharks and Castres, two of the sides who may be fancied to be there or thereabouts in the latter stages, and also for the Dragons, who surely won’t care how little Oyonnax put into their fixture as they needed any kind of win they could get!

The South African derby between Cheetahs and Sharks seems to be the pick of round 2, although Black Lion will fancy having a go at the Scarlets given how things went the last team a Georgian side played in Wales.

ROUND 1

NEWCASTLE 19-24 MONTPELLIER

PERPIGNAN 12-28 LIONS

DRAGONS 24-7 OYONNAX

OSPREYS 43-34 BENETTON

SHARKS 45-5 PAU

CASTRES 34-16 SCARLETS

BLACK LION 10-15 GLOUCESTER

ZEBRE 15-33 CHEETAHS

CLÉRMONT 31-18 EDINBURGH



ROUND 2

FRI DEC 15

SCARLETS V BLACK LION

GLOUCESTER V CLÉRMONT

SAT DEC 16

OYONNAX V ZEBRE

EDINBURGH V CASTRES

BENETTON V PERPIGNAN

LIONS V NEWCASTLE

PAU V DRAGONS

SUN DEC 17

CHEETAHS V SHARKS

MONTPELLIER V OSPREYS


HARPIN PREDICTION LEAGUE

Yeah I know this league is for the URC only and there were no matches last weekend but hey, I’m top of the league so Imma gonna keep posting the standings every chance I get!!!


NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Premiership leaders Sale Sharks come to the RDS on Saturday evening, we’ll have a preview with Keego on Friday while Tom Coleman and RugbyKino are slated to help with the wrap which will be back in its Sunday evening recording slot.  Be sure to keep in touch with all our social media channels and offer your own thoughts where you can.

And as ever, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP