80+ column : Demographics, discipline & deciders

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

After a hectic time putting together the Stormers wrap a week before, it was a much more comfortable process organising the Ulster one and myself and Conor were delighted to have Mark back with us after a spell on the sidelines. As ever the lads did a bang up job going through the relevant talking points.

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HARPIN ON…RYAN BAIRD (“THE NEXT LEVEL ATHLETE”)

When your team wins, fans arguing over which player was the best is a bit like parents arguing over their favourite kid, yet while Jack Conan has been getting back to his Lions best in recent weeks, I think the general concensus among Leinster fans is that it was actually Ryan Baird who should have taken the Star of the Match award at the weekend, so for this week’s Bonus Clip myself, Mark and Conor had a chat about his abilities and what he is capable of in the future.

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DISCIPLINE V LEINSTER TIK TOK 

I think Mark hit the nail on the head here – Saturday’s match at the Aviva was closer than the scoreline suggests with discipline a clear deciding factor.

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RED HAND POD APPEARANCE

We have had Peter Lockhart on our pod a few times this season and on Tuesday night I am happy to return the favour by appearing on The Red Hand to go back over the match at the Aviva on Saturday. I’ll post a link here once it’s out and also share on social media.


DEMOGRAPHICS “V” COACHING

From Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:30pm to Saturday, April 1, 2023 12:30pm, the Irish rugby community was celebrating a Grand Slam. And so we should, as it is by far and away the single biggest achievement for fans of the men’s game among the Six Nations.

But why did the partying come to an abrupt end in less than two weeks? Because between lunchtime and 7pm on Saturday, three of the four Irish provinces got knocked out of Europe, with Leinster the last one standing.

So I guess that means we need a change of narrative, right? Hell, yeah – because, well, you know, clicks n stuff. Besides, sure it wasn’t Ireland that won the Grand Slam anyway, it was actually Leinster. So there’s that.

At least the buzzwords surrounding these cries of injustice have shifted from the old reliables like “private schools” and “avocado toast” and such – now they have all been packaged into a handy little soundbite – it turns out Leinster are winning everything, even international tournaments now, because, well, you know, “demographics”.

So if this is the theme arising from the online discourse, you can be sure the mainstream media is going to weigh in and stir the pot even further. When the Indo put this narrative to Stu Lancaster, he responded by pointing to the standards of coaching at the province (I mean the bare faced cheek of him, being a coach and all) and naturally once that was released into the Birdhouse, now we had a straight shootout between two possible reasons why the province is doing so well and it HAD to be much more of one than the other.

I’m so tired of this. But I know it’s not going to go away, if for no other reason than it’s impossible to control the tides of world rugby in such a way that raises all four provincial boats equally. Can’t be done. Does Irish rugby benefit greatly from the private school sector when it comes to producing world class athletes? Yes. And are the majority of those schools in Leinster? Yes. But that that make their success on the world stage less of an achievement for the country somehow? I guess it does to many.

Rather than get dragged down too far into the mud on this issue, I’ll instead try to go the opposite direction and offer an overview.

My biggest bugbear in rugby union is the Northern Hemisphere senior rugby calendar. And that has been the case ever since 2008 when I first began Harpin’ On Rugby. It makes absolutely no sense at all, with the top tier 6N competition jammed into the middle of the season and players having to jump in and out of squads several different times from August to July.

Yet when I put a pin in my objections and accept that the status quo, I cannot deny that of all the six unions involved at the elite level in these parts, none have been able to manage their product within that framework better than the IRFU. Yes, I know that sounds like ass-kissing, but I do criticize them on these pages as well so take it whatever way you choose. The fact remains that on top of the Grand Slams there have been other Six Nations championships, Triple Crowns, Heineken Cups for three provinces and even Celtic League titles for all four in the professional era.

Of COURSE things can be done better. That said, to what extent do we want the IRFU to put their thumb on the scale when it comes to the provincial branches governing their own affairs? If Leinster keeps on winning, does that mean the union’s job now it to curtail that success to make sure the others catch up? Actually take some best coaches, players and/or academy prospects out and move them around, essentially providing punishment for winning too much?

I guess what I’m trying to say is…does every Leinster victory now somehow “prove” that the IRFU is doing things wrong?

Look – I don’t want a tribal war. That’s why I’m typing these thoughts here on my site rather than diving down social media rabbit holes. I’m a Leinster fan and I would still be one if they hadn’t won any trophies at all since I started doing this, in fact we had exactly zero stars over our crest when I wrote my first post.

But this need to put an asterisk beside every good thing my team does really, really is getting….ridiculous? No, it’s not that. ….becoming more and more of a pain in the hole with each day? Well, yeah, but that’s not what I’m looking for. …boring? Yeah. Let’s go with that.

I get it that all four provinces are proud, and I also get that one progressing at a faster pace is frustrating, but if we’re to have a discussion about closing those gaps, can we at least do it with all the relevant issues out on the table and not just a few convenient stereotypes.

UPDATE – While my views above focus on general attitudes towards Leinster, Rugby Kino offered a good take with a view to looking at constructive ways forward…


HCC FORMAT 2023/24

We’ve been getting very mixed signals about the makeup of the 2023/24 Heineken Champions Cup. I have said before on this column that the two-pools of 12 format, while far from ideal, didn’t bug me half as much as it seems to have done for the vast majority of fans, which means they really should do something about it.

Yet while it was announced a while ago that the system was to be changed, the announcement of the dates for next year’s competition showed that there were still only going to be four rounds in the pool stages. And with the amount of qualifiers still locked at 24 (including 8 from just 11 functioning Premiership clubs, but that’s for another day’s column) then we have to ask ourselves how are they going to change things exactly?

My guess is that they might make it look like they’re giving the masses what they want with 6 pools of 4 but maybe within each pool the top two seeds will play home and away against the bottom two and not against each other, thus producing a schedule similar to the current method, just with a more traditional looking set of pool tables?

I have a feeling that whatever they’re doing, it could possibly cause more problems than it solves.


TRY COUNTBACK

Exeter beat Montpellier at the weekend even though the final score was 33-33 after extra time., because of a clause that states that teams level after the overtime could be separated by tries scored, and possible cards conceded too, if required. I have seen a lot of pushback against this method but personally I think it’s ok, ONCE EVERYBODY KNOWS going into the match. I wonder how many in Sandy Park knew the score?

This reminds me of an AIL final back in 2009 when it finished 19-19 between Shannon and Clontarf and they went to extra time only for news to be sent on to the pitch that actually if Shannon could see out the game with the scores level they’d win the trophy because they scored the game’s FIRST try.

Not sure if I’m a fan of that particular method but the point is that it was farcical that for a senior rugby match not everyone involved knew what was going on…and we multiply that farce by a lot when it comes to the highest level behind test rugby.

For me, every avenue possible should be taken to avoid competition progress based on a penalty shoot out. And we give bonus points in pool play for scoring tries, why can’t we reward a team in a knockout fixture for doing the same?


JORDI RETIREMENT

Somewhere in that group is Jordi Murphy who was winning the Leinster Schools Cup with Blackrock at the RDS just four days before Ireland won the 2009 Grand Slam in Cardiff.

He went on to earn further success for both Leinster and Ireland at senior level until moving to Ulster in 2018 and it’s sad to hear of his impeding retirement once the season is over. Obviously I’m hoping he doesn’t add to his trophy success, but definitely not in a bad way – I’m sure all fans of Irish rugby wish him nothing but the very best for his future.


INJURY REPORT

The Sexton news has pretty much been accepted at this stage, so it has to be said the injury report from Saturday at the Aviva could have been a lot worse. Obviously a rolled ankle never sounds good especially when it’s your World Player Of The Year but I have a feeling we’ll see Josh in blue again for Leinster this season, and with Scott Penny more than ready to step up I’d say give him a start against the Tigers this weekend. But then again I got nowhere near predicting the use of Jimmy O’Brien at 13 against Ulster so they suggested 23 below is far from written in stone!

POSSIBLE 23 V LEICESTER

Keenan, J O’Brien, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe, R Byrne, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Ryan, Jenkins, Baird, Penny, Doris/Conan

McKee, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan/Doris, McGrath, H Byrne, Larmour/Frawley

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Hugo Keenan: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his return from the Graduated Return to Play Protocols

Garry Ringrose: has come through the Graduated Return to Play Protocols, trained fully at the end of last week and will be available for selection this week

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Caelan Doris: has come through the Graduated Return to Play Protocols however missed the game last week with illness and will be further assessed this week

Josh van der Flier: rolled his ankle in the second half of the game against Ulster Rugby and will be further assessed this week before a final decision is made on availability

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

No further injuries to report from the game at the weekend.

There are no further updates on:

Johnny Sexton (groin), Jamie Osborne (knee), Rónan Kelleher (shoulder), Joe McCarthy (ankle), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Martin Moloney (knee) and Charlie Ngatai (hamstring)


AIL UPDATE

The top four in Div 1A was already pretty much set although Cork Con’s win over Terenure gave them a shot at beating them to a home semifinal although they’ll have to win at Young Munster on the final day to make that possible. The biggest result in Round 16 came at the Belfield Bowl where UCD not only fought back from 0-19 to take their Colours battle with Trinity, but it also helped their survival push at the bottom of the table, although with Shannon also winning it means the race to avoid a playoff for seems to involve the Limerick side and the two Dublin universities and going on form it looks like Trinity have the easiest task of the three.

Meanwhile in Div 1B, congrats to City of Armagh as they clinched the title with a narrow win over UCC which will now mean two Ulster sides in the top tier next season. It’s anyone’s guess who will take the playoff spot with Old Belvedere currently in 2nd although they must win at Templeville Road against Mary’s to be sure of it otherwise either Highfield or Buccaneers could overtake them.

Seems a bit strange having a week’s gap between the final two rounds but I guess that only heightens the tension for all still in contention across the five divisions.

DIVISION 1A

ROUND 17

Lansdowne 28-31 Clontarf

UCD 22-19 Dublin University

Cork Con 27-23 Terenure

Shannon 26-10 Ballynahinch

Garryowen 28-22 Young Munster



ROUND 18 (ALL SAT APR 15)

Ballynahinch v Lansdowne

Clonfarf v UCD

Dublin University v Garryowen

Terenure v Shannon

Young Munster v Cork Con


DIVISION 1B

ROUND 17 

Old Belvedere 27-27 Banbridge

City of Armagh 24-20 UCC

Highfield 21-7 Naas

Malone 29-13 St Mary’s

Old Wesley 40-10 Buccaneers



ROUND 18 (ALL SAT APR 15)

Banbridge v Highfield

Buccaneers v City of Armagh

Naas v Old Wesley

St Mary’s v Old Belvedere

UCC v Malone


SEVENS UPDATE

Not the best weekend for the Irish 7s programme down in Hong Kong – the men had a stinker of a pool and really needed to overcome the Blitzboks in their opener to have a hope of making the quarterfinals and couldn’t manage it.  However, once out of the top 8 the best you can do it finish 9th and they did manage that with 3 knockout wins including the final against Samoa so the damage was limited.

Meanwhile the women, who had to play while knowing their XVs team was struggling back in Cork, did reach the quarterfinals only came up against Australia for a second time then further defeats to France & USA meant they had to make do with 8th place overall.  

As you can see by the overall standings, both teams are anxiously looking over their shoulders hoping to avoid slipping further down the table although only the men are playing this weekend in Singapore and will be targeting wins against GB & Japan hoping to get back into the proper knockouts once more.


Saturday, April 8

2:30AM – IRELAND MEN V ARGENTINA

6:18AM – IRELAND MEN V GREAT BRITAIN

9:22AM – IRELAND MEN V JAPAN

Sunday, April 9

3:50AM – PLAYOFFS BEGIN


MLR UPDATE

If you’re a new reader of the column, I’m keeping tabs on USA’s pro rugby competition this season to see how the sport is progressing over there, and I’ll be studying one match each week throughout the season. After giving the conferences two weeks each so far, I decided on a cross conference battle this time as NOLA Gold were hosting the undefeated Seattle Seawolves, and what a match it was.

The match was played at the “Goldmine” and it was billed as the immovable object of the Gold defence coming up against the irresistible force of the Seattle backline. And sure enough, you couldn’t get a better start than the Seawolves’ kickoff sailing straight over the jumper’s head into the arms of their winger who sprinted to the line “Mack Hansen In Paris”-style to pen the scoring.

But the home side was yet to show off their defensive system and for the remainder of the first half they proceeded to strangle their opposition enough to give themselves opportunities at the other end, which they took to go in 21-10 at the break, and when a penalty try and yellow card stretched that lead to 18 after 43m, it looked like that was it.

Just a sidenote – when Seattle had a man on the naughty step I wouldn’t have held it against the US commentators if they used the hockey term “power play” to explain how NOLA had the advantage – anything that gets sports-mad Yanks into our game is a definite plus.

But anyway, back to the action, it seemed all that first half tackling took its toll on the home side and once the Seawolves got one try with a man down, they went on to burst open the floodgates reeling off another three to establish a multi-score lead of their own with just over ten minutes left.

Did that mean the Gold were done? Absolutely not and they pulled back within a point with the clock at 77 setting up a grandstand finish and although the restart went deep in the Gold 22, they kept it through the hands to emerge through gaps the length of the pitch only to somehow be hauled down short of the line allowing the Seattle blindside to jackle a decisive penalty.

I know this sounds bad, but the disgusted faces on the faces of the home crowd at the awarding of a penalty was good to see because it shows they were invested in the match right up to the end. And although the Gold have now lost more than they have won this season, they still look good enough to be playoff contenders so from what I have seen from this league so far, it would not surprise me if these same two teams contested the championship final later in the year.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 7

UTAH 26-24 NEFJ

DAL 14-11 TOR

CHI 21-38 HOU

NOLA 35-36 SEA

NYI 31-20 ATL

SD 48-26 OGDC



ROUND 8

NEFJ V CHI

TOR V NYI

ATL V OGDC

HOU V UTAH

SEA V SD


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

Like I say I’m on the Red Hand pod during the week, then we’re all about the Good Friday visit of the Leicester Tigers with a preview show on Thursday, the wrap pod recording Sunday and all the usual features in between.

 In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP

80+ column : Stormers, selections & sources

Welcome to my 80+ column, a weekly post featuring final thoughts from the week of rugby just gone.  

WRAP OF A WRAP

Bit of a hectic weekend – first I was of course at the RDS on Friday night then I had commitments all day Saturday & Sunday which took longer than expected and for a while there it was touch and go whether I could do a wrap pod at all.  

Thankfully I was able to find pockets of time here and there to cobble together a show and even more thankfully, Ciarán Duffy was able to lend his own pod producing experience to help me out and get a sizeable chunk of the recording done by the time I was finally able to dial in.  Many thanks also to Tom Coleman for his patience and between them they did a super job harpin’ on the match on top of it all.

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HARPIN ON…THE STORMERS & LEINSTER’S NEW RIVALRY

No time to record a bonus clip this week so instead I just put out an excerpt from the pod where myself and Tom talked about the Stormers, how the approached the match at the RDS and how a new multi-national rivalry seems to be developing similar to that we had with the Ospreys back in the 2010s.

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HARPIN’ PREVIEW SHOW TIK TOK 

Didn’t have time to produce a TikTok from the main pod so I’ll use this segment to plug the Preview Show which we do generally soon after the Leinster or Ireland team is named during the week and can be found on our You Tube channel although we also put it out as a pod…

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Not much time for the Grand Slam celebrations to die down before arguably the biggest match of the #URC season so far – Conor Cronin joins me to preview the visit of the reigning champions to the RDS. #LEIvSTO

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WOMEN’S SIX NATIONS

Like I said earlier I was busy Saturday so didn’t get to watch this match but by the sounds of things it was extremely disappointing.  Since the failure to qualify for the World Cup there has been a good bit of positivity on the organisation side of things but it’s pretty clear that there is a long, long way to go and the problem is that as we try to recover the other nations are hardly going to pause and wait for us so by the time we reach a standard close to what we see from the top sides now, they would have moved on even further.  And it certainly doesn’t get a whole lot easier for them as they face France next.

Of course it’s impossible to avoid contrasting this result with the achievements of the men’s team just a week earlier, but I hope you appreciate I don’t say this to be mocking, far from it.  Maybe conditions for the women’s team are improving but it still pales in comparison to the long-standing infrastructure in place to support the men’s game. At the very least you’d hope there was enough support to provide for a dedicated sevens squad without depriving the XVs of the games top players in the process.

As always when I harp on women’s rugby here I must direct your attention to those who understand the issues much more and in the tweet below we have one such excellent source pointing out articles from another.

SEE ALSO THE SEVENS SECTION BELOW FOR A FURTHER UPDATE ON IRISH WOMEN’S RUGBY


DAN LEAVY TWEET

I was surprised by the reaction I got to this answer to a Twitter question, although I guess I can’t be surprised that I’m not the only one who thought Dan could have gone on to be one of the greats. In fact imagine if Leinster had himself, JVDF AND a never-injured Will Connors to choose from all this time!!!

Of course there was the odd bit of whataboutery in response but the truth is everyone was going to have their own choice in a question like this and the reality is that it’s one of those things where nobody is right and everyone is right all at once.


SOURCE MATERIAL

You’d like to think a player with the caliber and experience of Gareth Anscombe would be the best source of info on his own contract negotiations, yet Peter Jackson clearly thought he had a better one, and his reply below caused much amusement amongst the rugby Twitterati on Monday.

Who knows, maybe there is some truth in it after all, although I would have thought it was a courtesy to run an article like this by the man himself before publication? Come to think of it, maybe he did!!!


KING TROLL HIMSELF

TBH I’d much rather not have to mention Ewan McKenna’s name on these pages but once in a while it’s worth sharing his pseudo-man-of-the-people shite if for no other reason than to call it out as pseudo-man-of-the-people shite.

Kudos to Tom “Leinster Royalty” Coleman for coining the very tongue-in-cheek phrase “King Troll” in our WhatsApp group.


UNDER 18 FESTIVAL

Just going to copy paste some info from a press release, this series looks interesting and can be followed for free on a streaming service…

“The Six Nations Under-18 Festivals are a vital development platform”

· Under-18 Women’s Festival returns for its second year, strengthening the pathway for future stars of the women’s game

· Women’s Festival will take place from 7th – 15th April, and hosted at Wellington College, England

· The Men’s Under-18 Festival will be played at Energia Park, Dublin from 8th – 16th April

· Fans can follow every fixture across both festivals with a live streaming service on Six Nations Rugby digital channels

· The festivals will also offer a platform to support the development of coaches and match officials


INJURY REPORT

Obviously the headline news here is about Johnny Sexton and to be honest, I’d rather not harp on it right now if you don’t mind, still processing the very real possibility that his start on New Year’s Day against Connacht was to his last in Leinster blue.

For now I’d rather turn my attention to our possibilities for selection for the Champions Cup this weekend, hosting an Ulster side who I am very sure will come to Dublin with a decent chance of knocking us out if we’re not careful.

The way I see it the immediate concern of the injury report is the HIA protocols for Ringrose, Keenan and Doris. Obviously it’s paramount that they see them out fully, but if as suggested by the injury report they could be available pending further assessment, I’m pretty sure all three would start.

Which leaves us with a quandary in the selection process, where we’d need to decide on back up if they are unavailable. We have tried several different options at 15 this season without HK but I’m thinking since Larmour wore the 15 most recently then he must be considered for Saturday. Then in the centre obviously Robbie will play 12 or 13 depending on Garry’s fitness with Frawley ready to play inside centre if required.

That all in turn makes the 23 jersey an interesting debate and I had no hestitation putting Liam Turner in the mix for it as he is having a fine season. And speaking of the bench I decided to also go for a 6/2 split option as with the likes of Jimmy O’Brien, Larmour and Frawley likely to be involved we could afford to beef up our pack replacements and while Scott Penny has done brilliantly of late I think Deegan might just pip him for the extra spot although it’s very, very close.

POSSIBLE 23 V ULSTER

Keenan/Larmour, J O’Brien, Ringrose/Henshaw, Henshaw/Frawley, Lowe, R Byrne, Gibson-Park

Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Ryan, Jenkins, Baird, JVDF, Doris/Conan

McKee, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan/Ruddock, McGrath, H Byrne, Larmour/Frawley/Turner

OR

(6/2 split bench) McKee, Healy, Ala’alatoa, Molony, Conan/Ruddock, Ruddock/Deegan, McGrath, H Byrne

(note – the above team is purely from my imagination, it’s certainly not one of those quasi-leaked Thornley teams which are always 22 out of 23 correct)

INJURY UPDATE – AVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Ed Byrne: came through the game at the weekend with no issues after his return from a knee injury

INJURY UPDATE – FURTHER ASSESSMENT REQUIRED:

Garry Ringrose: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols this week  

Hugo Keenan: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols this week

Caelan Doris: will continue to follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols this week

INJURY UPDATE – UNAVAILABLE FOR SELECTION:

Johnny Sexton: will see a specialist tomorrow and have a procedure on the groin injury picked up in last Saturday’s game against England which will likely keep him sidelined for the remainder of the Leinster Rugby season

There are no further updates on:

Jamie Osborne (knee), Rónan Kelleher (shoulder), Joe McCarthy (ankle), Cormac Foley (hamstring), Martin Moloney (knee) and  Charlie Ngatai (hamstring)


AIL UPDATE

With all of the top four at home in round 16 of Division 1A it was kind of inevitable that all would cement their places and the gap of 9 points to fifth place will be tough to close. It’s looking very much like we’re going to have two Leinster v Munster semifinals to look forward to.

Meanwhile down at the bottom although both UCD and Shannon lost the Students did manage a precious losing bonus which gives them a crucial four point lead over the Limerick side with both teams at home in Round 17 against mid-table opposition.

As you can see I’ll be including the race to qualify for next season’s top division in this section for the rest of the season. And what a finish it promises to be with not only four teams vying for the two top spots (winner goes straight up, runnersup get a playoff) but theres the added bonus of there being one club from each province in the four!!!! City of Armagh would appear to have the inside track but there will no doubt be more twists and turns to this division before the season is out.

DIVISION 1A

ROUND 16

Clontarf 24-14 Hinch

Cork Con 36-19 Shannon

Trinity 10-32 Lansdowne

Terenure 52-0 Garryowen

Young Munster 23-17 UCD



ROUND 17

FRI MAR 31

Lansdowne v Clontarf

UCD v Dublin University

SAT APR 1

Cork Con v Terenure

Shannon v Ballynahinch

Garryowen v Young Munster


DIVISION 1B

ROUND 16

Banbridge 35-29 Malone

Buccaneers 7-27 Highfield

Naas 25-17 Old Belvedere

Wesley 13-6 City of Armagh

St Mary’s 40-32 UCC



ROUND 17 (ALL APR 1)

Old Belvedere v Banbridge

City of Armagh v UCC

Highfield v Naas

Malone v St Mary’s

Old Wesley v Buccaneers


SEVENS UPDATE

For reasons I have still yet to find on the internet, the 2022/23 World Series Sevens circuit is making two visits to Hong Kong, at least for the men, maybe it’s to make up for an event lost to COVID?

The Irish men, who nudged up one place to 9th after a final four appearance in Vancouver, got themselves a stinker of a pool draw with New Zealand, South Africa and Kenya all finding their way into the deathiest of pools of death with us.

Meanwhile the women, still fifth despite a poor outing in Canada by their standards, don’t have it too much easier with Fiji, Australia and Brazil on the horizon. 

Friday, March 31

6:04AM – IRELAND WOMEN V FIJI

8:04AM – IRELAND MEN V SOUTH AFRICA

10:28AM – IRELAND WOMEN V AUSTRALIA

Saturday, April 1

2:32AM – IRELAND WOMEN V BRAZIL

4:28AM – IRELAND MEN V KENYA

7:16AM – WOMEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN

8:49AM – IRELAND MEN V NEW ZEALAND

Sunday April 2

1:30AM – MEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN


UPDATE – The tweet below posted shortly after I published this article.


MLR UPDATE

For this week’s feature match I stayed in the Eastern Conference to check out Old Glory DC as they hosted NOLA Gold.

The venue was the soccer ground of Loudon United, a feeder team for DC United from the MLS. It’s actually located in Virginia not Washington, although that’s not surprising as most of the people who work in the nation’s capital actually live in Virginia.

Normally I have issues watching these MLR games because of the visible lines on the pitch from other sports yet although you could see the soccer markings my attention was more drawn by the actual grass itself, it looked like it could have done with a wee trim that morning, the conditions underfoot looked a bit sub-standard.

And whether it was the grass or not the match itself was something of an error fest with several penalties and knockons and although the visitors did have a stingy defence, Old Glory must have concerns that it took them an hour to cross the line with all the possession they had.

They were winning penalties in the first half enough to go into the break with a 12-10 lead thanks to the boot of their former Puma outhalf Joaquín Díaz Bonilla although New Orleans made the most of their one chance as JP du Plessis finished off a fine exchange in loose play.

After the break the scrappiness continued with nobody seemingly able to control the ball until eventually Jordan Lautaro got them ahead only for Gold fullback and former Auckland Blue Jordan Trainor to hit straight back and with less than ten minutes left Aussie 10 Rodney Iona kicked the three points that gave the visitors the win.

Far from a classic but still both sides look well in contention for the playoffs.

More on the league next week.

ROUND 6
OGDC 17-20 NOLA
NEFJ 10-9 DAL
UTAH 47-19 TOR
HOU 40-28 ATL
CHI 5-27 SEA



ROUND 7
UTAH V NEFJ
DAL V TOR
CHI V HOU
NOLA V SEA
NYI V ATL
SD V OGDC


HARPIN’ PREDICTION LEAGUE

Not a good weekend for the actual predictions, with nobody ever risking a draw as their forecasted result plus there were unexpected wins for the Scarlets and Lions, but I still managed to claw my way closer to Kino at the top of the HPL with the gap now just half a point, although even with just 23 matches left you could say all of the top five are in contention.  As for “No Picks Keego”, well, he’s clearing a space in his wardrobe for The Jersey Of Shame…


THE NEXT BATCH OF HARPIN’

I hate the chopping and changing around competitions as it is over the course of the European season, but this time of year it gets extra crazy as we must go from Six Nations to URC to Champions Cup in successive weekends.

But you can be sure I’ll be ready to give Saturday’s visit of the Ulstermen the full Harpin treatment with a preview Friday, wrap Sunday and all the usual features in between.

In the meantime, be sure to enjoy your rugby wherever you are.  JLP

235 : IRELAND V ENGLAND WRAP aka “Gran’s Lamb”

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Ryan Baird immense ..kudos must go to all coaches n staff and squad

10 tries conceeded in 2 6 Nations campaigns combined telling stat..hats off to Simon Easterby for defensive work especially

James Griffin

England brought physicality but not a lot of game nous. Ireland, while not always as precise as in previous games, matched their physicality but in addition, had good game management and made good decisions at crucial times. Delighted for the entire squad; a fully deserved slam.

Gavin Hegarty

Not a good Irish performance but always great to get a slam.

Up for discussion is where rugby is going. A red card should be for a malicious act, not for what steward did. His offence was a yellow at most.

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  3. Six Nations: Scotland survive incredibly nervy finish as Blair Kinghorn scores hat-trick of tries against Italy | The Scotsman [Graham Bean]
  4. Wales end Six Nations campaign on losing note against France – The Irish Times 
  5. Six-try Ireland U20s make history with back-to-back Grand Slam titles (the42.ie) [Sinead Farrell]

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Rugby on TV : Feb 9-13

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7:15PM – SCOTLAND V WALES – U20 SIX NATIONS – S4C

7:30PM – LONDON IRISH V NORTHAMPTON – PREMIERSHIP CUP – BT SPORT 3

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11:30AM – LONDON IRISH V NORTHAMPTON (REPLAY) – PREMIERSHIP CUP – BBC 4

1:15PM – SIX NATIONS SIN BIN – BBC1

2:15PM – IRELAND V FRANCE – SIX NATIONS – RTÉ TWO, ITV1

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12:45PM – EXETER V SALE SHARKS – PREMIERSHIP CUP – BT SPORT 3

3PM – ENGLAND V ITALY – SIX NATIONS – RTÉ TWO, ITV1

6PM – SIX NATIONS RUGBY SPECIAL – BBC2

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Throwback Thursday : 10 years since “That BOD pass” & “that Zebo flick”

This week’s Throwback Thursday goes back ten years (to the day as we publish) to what seemed at the time like a brilliant Six Nations start for Ireland so hopefully you can forgive the optimism in my writeup as I wasn’t to know the tournament would end with the roles very much reversed as Wales took the title anyway while we finished fifth (as France got the wooden spoon btw!).

Now it is they who are coming off a fifth place finish so we’ll see what happens…one last thing; speaking of 2013, of the Welsh matchday 23 selected by Gatland to play Ireland back then, SEVEN are also involved in the 2023 selection, and it would probably be eight had AWJ been fit at the time.


RBS Six Nations Championship, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales 2/2/2013 Wales vs Ireland Ireland’s Brian O’Driscoll celebrates his try Mandatory Credit ©INPHO/Dan Sheridan

Harpin On Rugby writeup dated February 2, 2013

PAYBACK

I honestly have to laugh at those “commenters” out there who are more interested in focusing on Ireland’s second half than they are their first when it comes to this match.

This was always going to be a cup final, and much like last night’s Super Bowl in which the scoring followed a very similar pattern, it always about who took the spoils, not how the result was achieved.

So if you want to spin this epic Cardiff contest as a failure by Declan Kidney’s side then go right ahead…but that’s just simply not what transpired.

The main weakness in the Irish camp was well documented before kickoff – backup to Mike Ross. And that wasn’t a slight on Declan Fitzpatrick either, it was more about the way the talent deficit was handled by the coaching staff since the Twickenham Twagedy last March.

All of which meant that if Ireland was going to come up with a plan to win this match, there was only one way to go…aim to hit the Welsh from the off, build up a lead, and tackle like demons to bring it home. Guess what – that’s exactly what they did.

Not that all was rosy from the Irish, and don’t you worry I’ll get to that in this piece, but I have to start by saying that this was a monumental result achieved with a mostly well-worked, well-executed gameplan that not only got the Welsh monkey off our backs but also injected a huge dose of championship-winning belief into a squad that badly needed it.

Since I’m pretty sure you’ve heard “that BOD pass” and “that Zebo flick” mentioned to death since Saturday, I’m going to start looking at the action itself by focusing on two other pivotal moments that I feel proved to be the difference on the day.

You want to talk about a Welsh comeback in the second half? Fine – but imagine how strong it would have been if the halftime score was 10-20 and not 3-23 as it ended up being. Well by rights it should have been the first score, only for an amazing goal-line stand.

All things considered, it was a decent first Six Nations appearance from Craig Gilroy. It seemed that the home side’s offensive strategy from the kickoff was to target him, and although he wasn’t exactly perfect under the high ball, he certainly did enough to make them go looking for a Plan B. Still…it was his poor clearance towards the end of the first half that lead to strong carries from the likes of Cuthbert, Coombes & Warburton and suddenly the Welsh were having their first serious foray into our 22. Several tough tackles & phases later, Rory Best forces a holding penalty and Ireland have the chance to clear. That defensive series was as good as a try to Ireland in my book.

Then we march down the field and get three points ourselves to widen the margin even further, which meant a whopping 20-point margin going into the break. But anyone who knows this game will tell you that the result was by no means certain. In fact, that very same stadium had experienced similar comebacks in its day.

So Sexton put the restart deep, and the Welsh, desperate for possession, decided to run the ball. Enter Mike McCarthy, Donncha Ryan & Sean O’Brien with quite possibly the most perfectly-executed “choke tackle” you’ll ever see, certainly the most timely. In an instant the possession the home side craved was taken from them, and a steady scrum plus a few phases later, the great BOD himself was diving over the line and THAT was the ball game.

From then on, the Welsh had only one option…burn the playbook and throw the kitchen sink at us. They knew it, we knew it, and the battle was on.

But there was an asterisk beside the O’Driscoll try. As Sexton was lining up his conversion (which he nailed to seal an amazing 6 for 6 haul which nobody anywhere seems to be highlighting), Gordon D’Arcy was being taken off with a dead leg that had been bothering him since the first half.

With all the talk about our lack of backup to the 3 position, very little was said about what we would do if our number 12 got injured. I did think of it before the match, but always assumed that should it happen, O’Gara would come on at out-half and Sexton would move to 12. That thinking, don’t forget, was before the match when the thought of us having a 30-3 cushion into the second half would have been pure fantasy.

Now I KNOW the formbook doesn’t look favourably on O’Gara  when it comes to tackling.  But I also can’t think of a more reliable out-half to run down a clock and bring home a decent lead. And I also believe a weakened 10 channel is a lot easier to protect than a 12 or 13 one, especially when you consider the tackling talent we had at 4,5,6,7,8 plus of course Sexton himself, who kept going despite getting a mouthful of shoe for his trouble.

Instead the coaching staff chose to go for Keith Earls, who went to outside centre while O’Driscoll went to 12. Yes, both players have abilities in those positions, but in one fell swoop we went from having arguably the world’s greatest ever 12/13 combo to a pairing who have only played together once. In this age of rugby where decoy runners play such a large part in creating space, it really was no surprise that once the kitchen sink was thrown at us there would be a way through and just like that the first Welsh try from Cuthbert was made look remarkably easy.

I don’t want to be too hard on Earls for being stranded like he was. But having seen the replay I’m surprised a photographer didn’t nab a shot of him grasping through mid-air at nothing much like Gavin Henson did with Tommy Bowe back in 2009. If I had to fault Declan Kidney for his selection of this Irish squad, I would say that if he wasn’t going to go for the O’Gara 10/Sexton 12 thing, he at least needed a number 23 on the bench who had played both 12 and 13 at provincial level. Like Fergus McFadden maybe?

But anyway…Earls was only on the pitch, and to be fair to him he went on to make 9 tackles which is decent for a full 80 minutes at test level, let alone the 36 minutes he was on. So it could be said that he and BOD sorted out their positioning somewhat…the Welsh would need something else to close the gap even further. Enter Monsieur Roman Poite.

Some people wonder why a lemon only squirts them in the eye. I say it’s because it doesn’t ONLY squirt you there, it’s just that’s the only time you really notice it. Same goes for sports fans and officials. Many say they dislike certain refs because they’re convinced they only give calls against their team…but that’s to be expected and one-eyed fans are a big part of what makes sports discussions so entertaining.

Personally I tend not to be so hard on Poite. For example, the “holding after the tackle” call on Cian Healy that led to the first Welsh score on 33 minutes seemed a bit harsh. Yet shortly after that, he made a similar call on Jamie Roberts (thanks to Best as I mentioned earlier) that got us out of jail big time. So at least he was consistent in that regard.

Yet on 46 minutes, Mike McCarthy got pinged for not releasing. A fair enough call. But it was the first time we had conceded a defensive penalty in our own 22 the entire match, and Poite chose to issue a warning to Jamie Heaslip, one which meant that Rory Best had to be sent to the bin later on.

I wouldn’t have much objection to the events of the last paragraph if the ref had at least spoken to Warburton after what Andrew Coombes did in the first half (click pic for better look). In fact, I could make a strong case for his transgression being a straight yellow, but if Poite was about issuing warnings on the first red zone no-no, he should have done it then, which should have eventually led to the final yellow card tally being a lot more reflective of the two sides’ no-nos than 0-2 did.

All of this meant not only was the kitchen sink being hurled at us for the final quarter, it was being done with an extra man. If anything it was a credit to our tackling that the second Welsh try from Halfpenny was over in the corner. Who knows how the match would have turned out had the Welsh full-back gotten the conversion, but it being out wide helped it be a 15 point deficit rather than a 13 point one and at that stage of the game, that was crucial.

On the subject of Leigh Halfpenny… (or ½p as the Welsh twitterati call him) he was outstanding on Saturday. When it comes to Lions selection he may have had a head start on Rob Kearney this season but with running with the ball, strong tackling and overall reliability he certainly must have the inside track for Gatland’s 15 jumper. In a way it’s a testament to Kearney’s ability that the opposition won’t kick to him anymore but this means that he has to show his mettle in other areas and the Welshman is certainly ahead of him right now.

And overall credit MUST go to Wales for the whole “kitchen sink” thing. George Hook will probably never live down his “lacking moral fibre” comment and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t represent the majority view of Ireland fans. They had been put on the back foot but found a way to come roaring back and they certainly shouldn’t rule themselves out of this tournament just yet.

On the 69th minute came Faletau’s almost-try at the base of the post when he was brilliantly held up by Sexton, followed by the sin-binning of Conor Murray for waving his hand (again incredibly soft compared to what Coombes did) and although we had been lucky to survive Best’s absence without a scrum being called and O’Brien throwing the darts, we were again down a man, this time for the final ten minutes.

A look at the tackle stats shows you how awesome Ireland’s defence was. Warburton and Faletau led the home side with 11 each – nobody else got to double figures. On the Irish side, everyone who did deserves a mention : Sexton & Best 10 BOD 11 Healy 15 Ryan & Heaslip 16 McCarthy 18 and finally Sean O’Brien a Herculean 23.

You say Ireland folded in the second half? I say we came out on top in a 40-minute period when both sides played out of their skins, literally in some cases given all the stitching that needed doing afterwards.

NOW I can get to the two moments of magic everyone is talking about.

The Zebo thing is the one we will all remember. And no doubt kids everywhere will be trying it. And yes, it was awesome “tekkers”. But to make Cian Healy’s try all about that would take away from all else that went with the move. Rory Best’s block & catch? Heaslip’s pluck out of the air and pass despite being tackled? Gilroy’s pirouette and keeping the ball alive? O’Mahony and Murray’s urgency? All of the above combined to keep the Welsh defence scrambling allowing Church to have the space to barge over.

But I have saved the best for last, the BOD pass that led to first try. Actually the first Baltimore Ravens touchdown was very similar in that the quarterback put the ball where he expected the receiver to be, rather than where he saw him. That’s all very well in gridiron because those guys practise it every week (not to mention they’re allowed pass the ball forward!). What O’Driscoll did took three Welsh defenders out of the equation (most notably Cuthbert who I still think must be dizzy from his confused spinning) to put Zebo over.

If Halfpenny has the inside track for the Lions 15 jumper, I think we can be in no doubt who has dibs on 13 the way things stand. I mean – if you want to fault the man for his box-kick towards the end, go ahead. I’ll do the same the next time I see Lionel Messi as a goalkeeper letting in a penalty 😉 Oh, and Rory Best certainly has a good shout for the hooker spot; if he shores up the darts he could be home and hosed before this Championship is done.

So…when all is said and done, we cleared a massive hurdle on what is still a long road to Six Nations glory. I said in my preview…

“…what I feel we need more than anything else is something that you can’t draw on a blackboard or look for in a DVD session.  We need the team to keep their head in the game for the full 80 minutes, forgetting the four other matches to come in the competition, and once we’re deep into the match, focus on dealing with what’s in front of them rather than trying to stick to complex sets of strategies

…and we did just that, so bravo to everyone involved. And the fact that the result came against a nemesis we fell short against on the last three attempts makes the payback all the sweeter.

Between now and next Sunday, I will be doing everything I can to make sure the English don’t get away with claiming underdog status for our clash in Dublin. Having said that, we may be battered and bruised, but we certainly have every chance. Bring it on. JLP

Throwback Thursday : Leo Cullen, Lengthy Contracts & Leinster Culture (July 2015)

To commemorate the news of Leo Cullen staying on at Leinster’s helm for another two years, I’m posting this article I wrote back in July 2015 just before it was officially announced he was taking on the role.


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I have put off writing this post for long enough…although nothing has been formally announced, there have certainly been enough rumblings around the media to suggest that Leo Cullen is to be the new head coach for Leinster, so I suppose it’s about time I gave some thoughts on it.

Of course to anyone who knows the game, the move would be considered a risk.  Though I find some of the comparisons being made to appointments in the past to be very baffling.  Steve Staunton?  Eh, no.  Chalk and cheese, mate. 

Sure, Stan made a bucketload of appearances for and was a part of the successful times for the team he was taking over, but his involvement with the Republic of Ireland consisted of about a dozen or so appearances per season while the rest of the time he was with his club of the day.

In Leo’s case, we are not only talking about a club with which he has spent the bulk of his professional career, however unfortunate or indeed unfair his limited Ireland caps total may be, it means he has probably clocked more working hours around the provincial set-up since the start of our “glory days” than any other.

Or to put it another way…if we were to confer the title “Mr. Leinster Rugby” on any individual, I can think of no better man to receive it. 

So when it comes to stepping into this role, one big advantage he has over Staunton is a near perfect knowledge of virtually every aspect of the organisation surrounding the head coach’s chair without ever actually having sat in it.

If we must compare this appointment to an iffy decision from history, I’d be more inclined to go for Martin Johnson’s for  England (yes, that actually did happen, as much as the press across the water tries to airbrush it out of history).  I mean the similarities are very easy to find…legendary lock/skipper who led the side to the highest honour his team could achieve. 

But even that comparison has flaws – I mean, for one thing, I doubt we’ll be hearing stories of dwarves being tossed around Krystle night club any time soon!!!  Joking aside…the assumption around the RFU’s decision with Johnson seemed to be that he’d be an instant success.  That the spirit of 2003 was one that could be bottled and spread to future generations of players.

I think it’s pretty widely known that Leo was never the first choice for the job, and we have all heard the Who’s Who of Rugby Coaches that has been linked with the post.  And given his personality I’m sure he will approach the position with an air of pragmatism as opposed to the air of arrogance that went with Johnson.

So that brings us to the next area we need to consider…how the decision of who gets the job is actually made.

With the success of Leinster and Munster in Europe since 2006, the two provinces are quite rightly considered up alongside the great outfits in European rugby like Toulouse, Leicester Tigers, Wasps and of course most recently Toulon.  And it’s hard not to cross-over to the round ball game and draw comparisons to Champions League greats like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester United.

There is absolutely no doubt that the head coach role at any of those institutions is one of an importance near to (if not more so in soccer’s case) international equivalents, and whenever those positions go on offer, the debate over who will fill them is extensive.

But here is where we must draw attention to one very important distinction.  Toulouse, Wasps and Man Utd are CLUBS.  The Irish provincial teams are not, at least not in the traditional sense.  They are branches of the national rugby union.  Many soccer clubs answer to shareholders alright but never to their football association.

At Leinster, Mick Dawson as CEO leads an extensive organization that has a mountain of work to get through from spreading the sport around the 12 counties to organizing match days to putting plans in place for improvements to the RDS Arena.

But when a big decision like a head coach appointment comes around, while I certainly wouldn’t say it’s “out of their hands”, it does need to be looked at through an IRFU-wide lens rather than simply a Leinster one.

The reason I was reluctant to do this post was that I had hoped that my last one on Matt O’Connor meant I could put the matter in a box and file it away in the HoR archives to gather dust but here is where I must drag it up again if only briefly.  As far as its head coaching position is concerned, Leinster Rugby together with the Leinster Professional Games Board and the IRFU had a plan already in place for this coming season…namely the last year of O’Connor’s 3-year contract.

And putting the disgruntled Leinster supporters aside just for a moment, this arrangement seemed to be one that suited everyone, given that right now, in the summer of 2015, the Prime Directive of Irish Rugby has to be preparation for our assault on the Rugby World Cup – and I sincerely hope nobody has any argument with  that!

Yet now we must bring the supporters back into the equation.  We can look at them two ways…the reality is that over the past 12 months there have been extremely varying opinions on Matt O’Connor’s tenure at Leinster and these have all been expressed on this site by several different contributors.  Then there’s the perception that the Leinster fan base is all of one mind and never wanted O’Connor in the first place.

That external perception would still seem to hold to this day, and to be fair, when Leinster had their worst dip in form of the season during the Six Nations, more and more fans were warming to the idea that change was needed and even coming within the width of a goalpost of defeating Toulon and reaching another European final wasn’t enough to claw it back.

Given that wave of what I called “Anti-Matter” opinion, the Leinster management could well be entitled to raise an eyebrow when those same fans have qualms about anyone who assumes the role. (“Leo Nay-Sayers”?)

Say you’ve been waiting for a table at a busy restaurant and they offer you one but you don’t want to sit there because it’s too near the kitchen, so the maître d goes out of his way to find you another one, only for you to complain about that for a different reason.

Given it’s a World Cup year, the coaches with CVs worthy of a 3-time European champion outfit are all either in contracts or at least are on career paths that revolve around the four-year World Cup cycle…meaning the summer just before one is a marketplace similar to the busy restaurant I mention above.  And I suspect those involved in the Leinster decision were well aware of this when they installed the word “interim” in Leo’s title, just in case.  It would appear the “in case” has happened.

If we like, we can convince ourselves that we have been “stuck” with Leo.  We can doom his tenure to failure before it even begins.

Or…we could pay attention to someone like Bernard Jackman, himself a table in that restaurant that is already taken.  I strongly recommend you listen to his contribution on Second Captains’ Monday edition but here are some of the things he had to say in Leo’s favour…

“Leo Cullen’s great strength is in powering others”

“Culture is what wins you championships and Leo Cullen is very clued into that”

“His skill set probably suits being a head coach more than being a unit coach”

I also suggest you read this post from Big Joe Shep here on this site looking at the new Leinster coaching ticket more as a “collective”.  With hopefully a quality backs coach appointment on the horizon (preferably from the outside) to finish it off, it actually is quite a decent mix of talent and with someone who both “gets” the Leinster culture and has been heavily involved in making it work within the Irish framework at the helm, I definitely cannot classify the move as a “disaster” as some suggest.

On the point that he was part of the coaching staff responsible for the disappointing effort last season, it’s hard not to concede that as a negative but a bit like the point Berch makes, if we’re going to tag Leo with the ills of our pack last season then this new set-up has given responsibility to someone else so we’ve every reason to expect an improvement.

And talk of a 2- to 3- year deal also seems baffling when hearing it first, but once more we have to consider all the angles…Leinster will want the matter decided sooner rather than later, and no doubt Leo’s representatives in the negotiations will do what they can to get the most security out of the deal.  It’s simply how the modern game works.

Finally as fans we have to look at our expectations for the future in general, and this coming season in particular.  Are they the same as they have been in recent years?  Is it really silverware or bust for us in the 2015/16 campaign?  I’m not so sure.

And given all the variables surrounding the province this season…so much talent being away for the first couple of months,  the possibility of some getting injured at the World Cup, the absolute stinker of a Rugby Champions Cup pool, the likelihood of limited integration time before it kicks off, the necessity of blooding a raft of promising youngsters into the senior squad…I’m not sure there’s a head coach out there who could walk fresh into the job and make it an instant success – and yes, I’m including Joe Schmidt in that list.

If I had to set a minimum target on the results front, I would go with a return to the final four of the Pro12 and at very least a decent effort to get out of that Euro pool.  Does this mean Leo should lose his job if we don’t make that goal?  Absolutely not.  There are several other factors like the style of rugby we play and the type of team selection decisions we make to consider, but it would certainly be nice to have more than one match in May again.

So before we look away from these Leinster headlines and back towards the World Cup ones (which is absolutely what I will be doing after this post!), my advice to fellow fans would be to consider the big picture for Irish rugby at this particular time and get behind our teams both blue and green in every way we can.

Not so much a “wait and see” approach, rather a much more interactive and constructive “Come On You Boys In Blue” one.  JLP


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Rugby on TV : Jan 27-Feb 1

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FRIDAY, JANUARY 27

2:28AM – IRELAND WOMEN V SPAIN – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

3:22AM – IRELAND MEN V SAMOA – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

8:35AM – IRELAND WOMEN V BRAZIL – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

7:35PM – ULSTER V STORMERS – URC – RTÉ TWO, VIAPLAY 1, URC.TV*

7:35PM – SCARLETS V BULLS – URC – BBC2 WALES, VIAPLAY 2, URC.TV*

7:45PM – SALE SHARKS V BATH – PREMIERSHIP – BT SPORT 1

10PM – IRELAND MEN V SPAIN – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

10:30PM – SCARLETS V BULLS (REPEAT) – URC – PREMIER SPORTS 2

SATURDAY, JANUARY 28

2:56AM – IRELAND WOMEN V AUSTRALIA – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

4:05AM – IRELAND MEN V USA – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

6:64AM – WOMEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

8:37AM – MEN’S PLAYOFFS BEGIN – SYDNEY 7S – WORLD.RUGBY

12:30PM – BRISTOL BEARS V SARACENS – WOMEN’S PREMIER 15S – PREMIER15S.COM

2PM – LEICESTER TIGERS V NORTHAMPTON – PREMIERSHIP – BT SPORT 2

2:30PM – BENETTON V MUNSTER – URC – TG4, VIAPLAY 2, URC.TV*

3PM – DRAGONS V GLASGOW WARRIORS – URC – VIAPLAY 1, URC.TV*

3PM – SARACENS V BRISTOL BEARS – PREMIERSHIP – PR.TV*

3PM – WORCESTER V LOUGHBOROUGH – WOMEN’S PREMIER 15S – PREMIER15S.COM*

4:30PM – EXETER V GLOUCESTER – PREMIERSHIP – BT SPORT 2

5PM – LEINSTER V CARDIFF – URC – RTÉ TWO, VIAPLAY 1, S4C, URC.TV*

5:15PM – EDINBURGH V SHARKS – URC – VIAPLAY 2, URC.TV*

7:35PM – CONNACHT V LIONS – URC – TG4, VIAPLAY 1, URC.TV*

10:45PM – LEINSTER V CARDIFF (REPEAT) – URC – PREMIER SPORTS 1

11:15PM – RACING 92 V LA ROCHELLE (TAPE DELAY) – 🔝🐱🐴 – PREMIER SPORTS 2

12:30AM (SUNDAY) – BENETTON V MUNSTER (REPEAT) – URC- PREMIER SPORTS 1

SUNDAY, JANUARY 29

3PM – ST MICHAEL’S V BELVEDERE – LEINSTER SCHOOLS CUP – IRISHRUGBYLIVE.IE*

3PM – ZEBRE V OSPREYS – URC – S4C, VIAPLAY 2, URC.TV*

3PM – LONDON IRISH V HARLEQUINS – PREMIERSHIP – BT SPORT 1

8PM – TOULOUSE V MONTPELLIER – 🔝🐱🐴 – VIAPLAY 2

MONDAY, JANUARY 30

3PM – BLACKROCK COLLEGE V PRES BRAY – LEINSTER SCHOOLS CUP – PREMIER SPORTS

8PM – AGAINST THE HEAD – RTÉ TWO

TUESDAY, JANUARY 31

3PM – NEWBRIDGE V KILKENNY – LEINSTER SCHOOLS CUP – IRISHRUGBYLIVE.IE*

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 1

3PM – TERENURE V CLONGOWES – LEINSTER SCHOOLS CUP – IRISHRUGBYLIVE.IE*

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1. Andrew Porter 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Michael Ala’alatoa 4. James Ryan 5. Jason Jenkins 6. Ryan Baird 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Caelan Doris

16. Rónan Kelleher 17. Ed Byrne 18. Cian Healy 19. Ross Molony 20. Jack Conan 21. Luke McGrath 22. Harry Byrne 23. Jamie Osborne.


Racing 92 : 15 M Spring 14 C Wade 13 F Saili 12 G Fickou 11 J Imhoff 10 F Russell 9 N Le Garrec 

1 E Ben Arous 2 C Chat 3 C Gomes Sa 4 C Woki 5 F Sanconnie 6 W Lauret 7 I Diallo 8 M Baudonne 

16 J Tarrit 17 H Kolingar 18 T Nyakane 19 B Palu 20 A Bresler 21 B Chouzenoux 22 A Gibert 23 O Klemenczak.


Heineken Champions Cup 2022/23

Pool A Round 1

Sat Dec 10  KO 1pm (Irish time)

Stade Océane, Le Havre

Live on: BT Sport 2


Ref: Luke Pearce (Eng)

AR1: Harry Walbaum (Eng)

AR2: John Meredith (Eng)

TMO: Andrew Jackson (Eng)


196 : Leinster v Ulster wrap

3 December 2022; Garry Ringrose of Leinster dives over to score his side’s third try during the United Rugby Championship match between Leinster and Ulster at the RDS Arena in Dublin. Photo by Ramsey Cardy/Sportsfile

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Chris McDonnell Its days like this that make being a leinster supporter worthwhile. Magnificent 1 to 23

Liz Power A warning to all teams. Do not lead Leinster by 22-3 in the first half. It’s a dangerous score as the 2011 finalists Northampton will attest!!

Bert McLoughlin Just home after the game, hoarse and sore hands from 👏. What a comeback

Sean Michaels Still trying to get my breath back after that. Literally a game of two halves. Substitutions made a great difference. Porter, Ringrose, Baird were immense. Whatever was said at half time obviously did the trick. Thought Lowe had a good game after such a long spell injured, has obviously taken the time to work on the areas of his game that were seen as a weakness, he looked hungry and aggressive and deserved his try

Gavin Hegarty And that, dear Ulster, is rugby.

I know Healy’s red is a red by law but to me a red is for malice or two yellows. Ref actually adjudicated the mitigating bits for their yellow very well.

I would have given motm to jgp, speed!!!!

Paul Smith Wow, just wow. That’s all I can say right now

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RichardMifsud If that isn’t a game for the ages I don’t know what is. What a second half from #leinster absolutely blew Ulster away after a dismal first half performance (credit Ulster). Most pleasing was the relentless pursuit of the win. Ringer is some player isn’t he. Ports worthy POTM but Ryan Baird was veeery close Anyway what a game #LEIvULS Great prep for the Heino

Orange Juice brilliant game by Leinster and Gary Ringrose was on fire today and fair play to Ulster for not making it easy for us

Koochulainn Leinster are so innovative they have reinvented the game of two halves

rosscarrick Unreal game from Leinster. Two scores down and only 14 for most the game! Phenomenal comeback win

@KJoanne My beloved Leinster. What a game! Delighted with that win after that first half. Commiserations to Ulster, thanks for a great contest.


FRONT FIVE ARTICLES


URC ROUND 9 WRAP

URC ROUND 9

SHA25-10 OSP

EDI 17-38 MUN

STO 34-26 DRA

ZEB 17-45 GLA

CON 38-19 BEN

BUL 45-9 CAR

LEI 38-29 ULS

LIO 32-15 SCA



ROUND 10

FRI DEC 23

SHA V LIO

STO V BUL

GLA V EDI

CON V ULS

SAT DEC 24

BEN V ZEB

MON DEC 26

DRA V CAR

OSP V SCA

MUN V LEI


HARPIN’ MATCH WRAPS ARE

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Harpin’ Preview Show : #LEIvULS


LEINSTER : 15. Hugo Keenan 14. Jimmy O’Brien 13. Garry Ringrose > CAPTAIN 12. Jamie Osborne 11. James Lowe 10. Ross Byrne 9. Jamison Gibson-Park

1. Cian Healy 2. Rónan Kelleher 3. Michael Ala’alatoa 4. James Ryan 5. Jason Jenkins 6. Ryan Baird 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Jack Conan

16. Dan Sheehan 17. Andrew Porter 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. Ross Molony 20. Caelan Doris 21. Nick McCarthy 22. Charlie Tector 23. Liam Turner.

Ulster : 15 M Lowry 14 E McIlroy 13 J Hume 12 S McCloskey 11 S Moore 10 B Burns 9 J Cooney

1 A Warwick 2 T Stewart 3 M Moore 4 A O’Connor 5 K Treadwell 6 I Henderson (C) 7 Mar Rea 8 N Timoney

16 R Herring 17 C Reid 18 T O’Toole 19 S Carter 20 D Vermeulen 21 N Doak, 22 J Stockdale 23 Mat Rea


BKT United Rugby Championship 2022/23 – Round 9

Saturday, December 3, 2022

RDS Arena 7:35pm 


Referee: Christophe Ridley (RFU)

AR 1: Oisin Quinn (IRFU) 

AR 2: Kieran Barry (IRFU)

TMO: Rowan Kitt (RFU)


Live on: TG4, Viaplay (Premier Sports) & URC.tv